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Re: Art Law

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:34 pm

It sounds like something a lawyer does after a certain number of years of practice, and not something you can just jump into immediately after law school. It's probably small, and hard to get a foot in the door. You should probably focus on intellectual property law for the time being.

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Re: Art Law

Postby OGR3 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:50 pm

Just like every area of law, I'm sure a T14 degree would go further than specialization here, but at least we have something like what you're looking for.

Truthfully, I have yet to hear of anyone actually doing this. Most who do joint degrees do JD/MBAs at Pitt or Carnegie Mellon.

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Re: Art Law

Postby ResolutePear » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:57 pm

OGR3 wrote:Just like every area of law, I'm sure a T14 degree would go further than specialization here, but at least we have something like what you're looking for.

Truthfully, I have yet to hear of anyone actually doing this. Most who do joint degrees do JD/MBAs at Pitt or Carnegie Mellon.

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Wouldn't a JD/MBA from NW/Kelloggs work out better? Just asking.

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Re: Art Law

Postby OGR3 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:16 pm

ResolutePear wrote:
OGR3 wrote:Just like every area of law, I'm sure a T14 degree would go further than specialization here, but at least we have something like what you're looking for.

Truthfully, I have yet to hear of anyone actually doing this. Most who do joint degrees do JD/MBAs at Pitt or Carnegie Mellon.

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Wouldn't a JD/MBA from NW/Kelloggs work out better? Just asking.


Negative.

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Re: Art Law

Postby ResolutePear » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:20 pm

OGR3 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
OGR3 wrote:Just like every area of law, I'm sure a T14 degree would go further than specialization here, but at least we have something like what you're looking for.

Truthfully, I have yet to hear of anyone actually doing this. Most who do joint degrees do JD/MBAs at Pitt or Carnegie Mellon.

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Wouldn't a JD/MBA from NW/Kelloggs work out better? Just asking.


Negative.


If you don't mind the follow-up:

Why not? Wouldn't an MBA from a school ranked significantly higher have a better chance at employment? Or is there something that I'm missing here?

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Re: Art Law

Postby OGR3 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:42 pm

ResolutePear wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
OGR3 wrote:Just like every area of law, I'm sure a T14 degree would go further than specialization here, but at least we have something like what you're looking for.

Truthfully, I have yet to hear of anyone actually doing this. Most who do joint degrees do JD/MBAs at Pitt or Carnegie Mellon.

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Wouldn't a JD/MBA from NW/Kelloggs work out better? Just asking.


Negative.


If you don't mind the follow-up:

Why not? Wouldn't an MBA from a school ranked significantly higher have a better chance at employment? Or is there something that I'm missing here?


My original post was referring to Pitt joint degrees. I thought you were being a smartass so I responded in kind. Obviously Northwestern is head and shoulders above Pitt and Kellogg would be a better bet than Tepper.

My apologies for the mix up.

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Re: Art Law

Postby ResolutePear » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:46 pm

OGR3 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Wouldn't a JD/MBA from NW/Kelloggs work out better? Just asking.


Negative.


If you don't mind the follow-up:

Why not? Wouldn't an MBA from a school ranked significantly higher have a better chance at employment? Or is there something that I'm missing here?


My original post was referring to Pitt joint degrees. I thought you were being a smartass so I responded in kind. Obviously Northwestern is head and shoulders above Pitt and Kellogg would be a better bet than Tepper.

My apologies for the mix up.


No apologies required :D

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Re: Art Law

Postby warumnicht » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:06 pm

This interview with the General Counsel of the Art Institute of Chicago gives you some ideas.
http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/596/Julie-Getzels-On-the-Art-of-Working-as-a-General-Counsel/

Note what she says about specialization. Specialization not not seem to be good when it comes to art law! I have personally spoken to a couple of art lawyers, and they all say the same thing: art lawyers are generalists. Yes, intellectual property is certainly a biggie in the field, but as other people have mentioned in this thread, you can't neglect things like tax, contracts, and all that jazz.

Someone mentioned that schools in NYC have an arrangement with Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts. VLA has affiliates in other cities, too, and if they offer externships during the school year, you should take advantage of that. Even if they don't offer such opportunities, they sometimes look for volunteers to do mundane things like setting up chairs and checking guests in for events. It's not legal work, but it will give you a chance to network with lawyers who come to those events.

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Re: Art Law

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:51 am

Even if they don't offer such opportunities, they sometimes look for volunteers to do mundane things like setting up chairs and checking guests in for events. It's not legal work, but it will give you a chance to network with lawyers who come to those events.


This is exactly true. I agree entirely.

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Re: Art Law

Postby Inmilex » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:21 pm

Ah, to be a clueless 0L again.

I think I'll go into Wealthy Bohemian Law.

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Re: Art Law

Postby judgeholden » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:25 pm

I want to go into Star Wars law!

What, they teach courses in it, surely it must be a profitable and easy to get into field! Most attorneys pick their field, right, they don't just end up in wherever they managed to find work, right?

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Re: Art Law

Postby vanwinkle » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:44 pm

judgeholden wrote:I want to go into Star Wars law!

What, they teach courses in it, surely it must be a profitable and easy to get into field! Most attorneys pick their field, right, they don't just end up in wherever they managed to find work, right?

Did not need to be anonymous.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=130748

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Re: Art Law

Postby Kohinoor » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:59 pm

Thread delivered.

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Re: Art Law

Postby mbw » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:57 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
bnc2010 wrote:
lolol10 wrote:i believe the proper classification is IP law. within IP there is a genre of law called entertainment law. if i had to guess, i would say art law falls under this category. art law LOLOLzzz

I don't really understand what you find so funny about the term "art law". Many law schools offer courses in this field.

To be fair, you're talking about a legal area that's such a small niche it barely exists in the realm of legal employment discussion. You're basically asking which direction to swim the Atlantic if you want to arrive at the Brighton Marina. Even if it turns out you can swim far enough to make it, you can't be sure you'll arrive exactly where you wanted.


Probably shouldn't be this way, if it is (and I'm not convinced it is, as I'm in a closely related field and was just at a conference in DC with 300 peers.) After narcotics, gun and pornography/sex, art crimes rake in the most money internationally.

So, where to start? Here are a few places:
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http://www.culturalheritagelaw.org/ (if you join, you have access to the art law internship information)
http://culturalpropertylaw.wordpress.com/
http://illicit-cultural-property.blogspot.com/

(If you're interested in indigenous cultural property law, NAGPRA (my specialty) is a good place to start: http://www.nps.gov/nagpra/)

Generally, you need to take a strong course load of property, intellectual property, contract, T&E, and foreign/indigenous law. If you find a school with a cultural property emphasis (DePaul), your job deciding what to take will be easy.

Good luck. I would strongly suggest looking at the ARCA program -- if my 2L summer plan hadn't worked out the way I'd hoped, I was thinking of applying to the summer program in Italy.

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Re: Art Law

Postby judgeholden » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:49 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
judgeholden wrote:I want to go into Star Wars law!

What, they teach courses in it, surely it must be a profitable and easy to get into field! Most attorneys pick their field, right, they don't just end up in wherever they managed to find work, right?

Did not need to be anonymous.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=130748


In fairness, as I'm anonymous regardless the only reason it was anonymous was that I didn't think I'd need to log in (couldn't remember my password.) By the time I had it right I was already in the anonymous post and there's no easy button to go not-anonymous without hitting back a few times.

It was solely due to laziness.




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