Patriot1208 wrote:But the post makes it believe that up to 70% of the class has absolutely NOTHING lined up. He doesn't seem he was limiting to v100.
Keep in mind that most non-OCI hiring hasn't happened yet. Smaller firms are still hiring. The majority of public service employers do their offerings in the late fall or winter, either because they're not time-pressured like firms are, or because they can wait and determine how many 1Ls and 2Ls they'll have coming. Some don't even start offering internships until spring. So it's possible to say that 70% of Mich 3Ls have nothing lined up yet
and for that number to drop at least some over the next few months.Edit:
Also, as rayiner points out, he's not saying 70% has nothing lined up, just that they don't have a firm job or clerkship lined up.
Unless a very significant amount of the 3Ls got no-offered this summer (25%+), there's no way 70% of the class doesn't have something lined up.
We placed approximately 40-45% of the class into firm jobs last year - according to our OCS data, we had about ~315ish people reporting their employers, and using only those reported numbers and calculating the class size to 400 members, approximately 40% had firm jobs. Out of those 85 that didn't report, there are a couple options: (1) none of them got firm jobs and didn't report because they're bitter, or (2) some got firm jobs, some didn't, but all of them didn't report out of laziness/because they didn't know they were supposed to/because the form is seriously almost impossible to find on the OCS website. Some will believe that (1) is the case, but I'm going with (2) - I personally got a 1L job I really liked with a federal judge, but didn't know how to report the information, I was lazy, and therefore I wasn't included. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened to some people who got firm jobs. That said, I don't know - maybe the only people not reporting all struck out. But either way, I'm highly skeptical that the figure is 50-70% without anything lined up. 70% seems impossible, and 50% would seem possible only if people hadn't made any progress over November of last year.
Anonymous User wrote:Mich student here - 70% sounds way too high. Not sure about 50%, since a fair number of people I know did apply outside of OCI and ended up with smaller firm jobs. If I had to guess, I'd say a 30% to 40%, but nobody really knows. (These people probably ended up working for the fed gov, which normally does not offer a post-graduate permanent position.)
Fwiw, I think this year's OCI was a lot better. 21 out of 25 2Ls I've spoken to have firm jobs - 19 got biglaw through OCI, 2 smaller to mid-sized firm through mailings. (And one of these people didn't do OCI because he only wants to work in his hometown.) Only 1 is on law review. This might be an unrepresentative sample, but I think all signs point to c/o 2012 having it much easier.
I'm another 2L who has also avoided asking about people's jobs. That said, within my group of friends who are close enough to discuss OCI, I can count the number of people still searching on one hand. Actually, with a couple fingers - many of my sub-median friends have private sector firm jobs in primary/secondary markets, even if not Vault/NLJ. I know of many more V10/DC biglaw offers than those without anything. Of course, those without a job will naturally be much more quiet about their situation, and most people thankfully are being quiet in general about any offers they do/don't have. However, I also agree that this year seems to be markedly better than for c/o 2011.