What to do if no good options from OCI?

(On Campus Interviews, Summer Associate positions, Firm Reviews, Tips, ...)
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting

Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.

Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
chitown825
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:45 pm

What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby chitown825 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:07 pm

Tier 2 (80-90) regional law school
Top 10%, top law review, strong resume (no full time WE), good social and interviewing skills.

Basically, nobody came to my school's OCI this year. It's not certain yet, but there's a chance I won't have any appealing options for next summer. What are my options at this point if this is the case? Too late to apply anywhere else? Any good agencies/firms/summer programs have late deadlines?

User avatar
Bosque
Posts: 1585
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:14 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Bosque » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:53 pm

Please tell me you have already started mailing out your resume. Especially since you went INTO OCI knowing (or at least you should have known) that there was almost no chance you were getting a job from it. If you haven't been, I have no sympathy for you.

If you have been, and have just not heard anything positive yet, I wouldn't give up hope entirely. Some firms are just now starting to go through their mailed resumes to find the students they want to plug the holes in their summer classes with, having exhausted their crop of good looking OCI candidates.

That said, keep on applying. Never stop applying until you have a job you like. I would try and list off some specific options you might not have thought of, but I don't really know what you are interested in.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273117
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:57 pm

Some fed gov positions have late deadlines. Check out Arizona's handbook for more info. Also, some mid-sized firms have just begun their hiring process.

User avatar
MrKappus
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby MrKappus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:58 pm

What's a "top law review"?

chitown825
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:45 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby chitown825 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:06 pm

MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


My school has multiple law journals, one is by far the hardest to get onto

Aqualibrium
Posts: 2011
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:57 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Aqualibrium » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:07 pm

MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


Flagship journal at school with multiple journals?

*disregard if you knew that, and just wanted to poke fun at his language.

User avatar
MrKappus
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby MrKappus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:08 pm

chitown825 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


My school has multiple law journals, one is by far the hardest to get onto


Haha that's called "law review."

User avatar
Bosque
Posts: 1585
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:14 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Bosque » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:13 pm

MrKappus wrote:
chitown825 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


My school has multiple law journals, one is by far the hardest to get onto


Haha that's called "law review."


Yes yes, as opposed to a "journal." We all understood what he meant, lets move on.

User avatar
MrKappus
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby MrKappus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:17 pm

Bosque wrote:
MrKappus wrote:
chitown825 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


My school has multiple law journals, one is by far the hardest to get onto


Haha that's called "law review."


Yes yes, as opposed to a "journal." We all understood what he meant, lets move on.


Sorry to waste your busybusy interwebz time, Mr. supersweet avatar. I asked b/c there are "top law review[s]," as LR's are ranked, but none of them are at T80-90 schools. @OP: what do you want people to tell you? Start mass-mailing, even though its way late in that game. You won't have much success at V100 firms, but midlaw seems to hire throughout the year, depending on the region. Good luck.

User avatar
20160810
Posts: 19648
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 1:18 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby 20160810 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:14 pm

Bosque wrote:Please tell me you have already started mailing out your resume. Especially since you went INTO OCI knowing (or at least you should have known) that there was almost no chance you were getting a job from it. If you haven't been, I have no sympathy for you.

If you have been, and have just not heard anything positive yet, I wouldn't give up hope entirely. Some firms are just now starting to go through their mailed resumes to find the students they want to plug the holes in their summer classes with, having exhausted their crop of good looking OCI candidates.

That said, keep on applying. Never stop applying until you have a job you like. I would try and list off some specific options you might not have thought of, but I don't really know what you are interested in.

This is about right. OP is the classic example of someone (great grades at a bad law school) who is likely to not do well at OCI but who might be a VERY strong candidate for direct mailings to smaller firms in markets w/ties. If you haven't been mailing start yesterday.

Aqualibrium
Posts: 2011
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:57 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Aqualibrium » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:23 pm

SBL wrote:
Bosque wrote:Please tell me you have already started mailing out your resume. Especially since you went INTO OCI knowing (or at least you should have known) that there was almost no chance you were getting a job from it. If you haven't been, I have no sympathy for you.

If you have been, and have just not heard anything positive yet, I wouldn't give up hope entirely. Some firms are just now starting to go through their mailed resumes to find the students they want to plug the holes in their summer classes with, having exhausted their crop of good looking OCI candidates.

That said, keep on applying. Never stop applying until you have a job you like. I would try and list off some specific options you might not have thought of, but I don't really know what you are interested in.

This is about right. OP is the classic example of someone (great grades at a bad law school) who is likely to not do well at OCI but who might be a VERY strong candidate for direct mailings to smaller firms in markets w/ties. If you haven't been mailing start yesterday.



Hell op would have had a shot at bigger firms as well (by bigger I mean secondary market big law shops...I never quite know what TLS people mean when they say smaller firms). With top 10% and law review, if he had sent out stuff late July to early August, someone would have bit and at least given him an interview.

I also still dispute the importance of ties. I applied to several markets, only two of which I had ties to, and got offers from all of them. Being a lawyer is about oral and written advocacy; if you can get into the room, you should be able to convince a firm that you are worth their time regardless of if it's the first time you've ever even set foot in their city (and I had to do that several times).

User avatar
MrKappus
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby MrKappus » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:Hell op would have had a shot at bigger firms as well (by bigger I mean secondary market big law shops...I never quite know what TLS people mean when they say smaller firms). With top 10% and law review, if he had sent out stuff late July to early August, someone would have bit and at least given him an interview.

I also still dispute the importance of ties. I applied to several markets, only two of which I had ties to, and got offers from all of them. Being a lawyer is about oral and written advocacy; if you can get into the room, you should be able to convince a firm that you are worth their time regardless of if it's the first time you've ever even set foot in their city (and I had to do that several times).


Probably true except for SF and DC, and super-tight mid-mkt firms w/ really small SA classes.

dscummy21
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:36 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby dscummy21 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:01 am

MrKappus wrote:
Bosque wrote:
MrKappus wrote:
chitown825 wrote:
Sorry to waste your busybusy interwebz time, Mr. supersweet avatar. I asked b/c there are "top law review[s]," as LR's are ranked, but none of them are at T80-90 schools. @OP: what do you want people to tell you? Start mass-mailing, even though its way late in that game. You won't have much success at V100 firms, but midlaw seems to hire throughout the year, depending on the region. Good luck.


Pompous jerk.

User avatar
rdt854
Posts: 52
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:53 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby rdt854 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
MrKappus wrote:
Bosque wrote:
Sorry to waste your busybusy interwebz time, Mr. supersweet avatar. I asked b/c there are "top law review[s]," as LR's are ranked, but none of them are at T80-90 schools. @OP: what do you want people to tell you? Start mass-mailing, even though its way late in that game. You won't have much success at V100 firms, but midlaw seems to hire throughout the year, depending on the region. Good luck.

Pompous jerk.


Yeah dude your an asshole

drew
Posts: 114
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:17 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby drew » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:53 pm

Bosque wrote:
MrKappus wrote:
chitown825 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:What's a "top law review"?


My school has multiple law journals, one is by far the hardest to get onto


Haha that's called "law review."


Yes yes, as opposed to a "journal." We all understood what he meant, lets move on.

And while a huge douche bag, he's still wrong.

http://www.georgetownlawjournal.org/

User avatar
vanwinkle
Posts: 9740
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:02 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:59 pm

dscummy21 wrote:Pompous jerk.

rdt854 wrote:Yeah dude your an asshole

A lot of unnecessary anonymity going on in this thread.

User avatar
Bosque
Posts: 1585
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:14 pm

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby Bosque » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:12 pm

I have no issue with Kappus, let me get that on the record in case there is more anonymous posting. Especially if I can keep that nickname.

User avatar
MrKappus
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 am

Re: What to do if no good options from OCI?

Postby MrKappus » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:43 pm

I'm not sure what I did that was pompous or douchey, but sorry for offending everyone's delicate sensibilities. Sheesh. That G-town link explicitly states it's the school's "flagship law review," so I'm uncertain as to what that post was meant to prove, except that I'm "still [not] wrong." You'd think a Gamecocks fan'd be in a better mood this week.




Return to “Legal Employment”

Who is online

The online users are hidden on this forum.