bwv812 wrote:yellowjacket2012 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Maybe you can fake it, but there are tons and tons of people who are actually really passionate about this field and the organizations don't hire that many people. (At my T6, I know at least 10 people who were gung-ho about public interest/criminal law (some are Law Review, top 10%) from the very beginning. They didn't even do OCI/EIP and they are going to tell these interviewers exactly that. )
Didn't say it was a cakewalk, becoming a public defender is easier than becoming a big law associate.
Actually, what you said before you edited was that you can't help it it these T6 top 10% can't interview worth shit (which makes little sense, since they likely haven't interviewed or found out yet). But even if it is easier to get a 2L summer PD position than a biglaw SA (which is highly dubious), it's not like PD summer programs aim to have 100% offer rates at the end of summer; I believe you generally have to interview from scratch and duke it out with everyone else in 3L interviews. Summer positions in PDs are not feeder positions. It seems like they actually give you real work, and you actually help them get stuff done. Many PDs have hired few or no full time positions in the past few years, relying instead on deferred SAs working off their firm stipends.
Exactly. People seem to forget that once you're not talking about biglaw the logistics of getting a job are very different. I know a couple people that summered in PI and are currently unemployed. The PI market is, from what I've heard, actually worse than the law firm market right now in terms of new hires. They generally don't have the money right now to hire new people, and they're getting tons of the biglaw cast offs as free labor.
The market is rough out there for everyone.
PS: This thread has solidified my opinion that OS is the TLS MVP. Excellent thread.