To Drop Out or Graduate?

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Patriot1208 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Fine, so maybe I'm an aberration, maybe not. My sense is, more not.


Clearly, that is your problem. Self Awareness FTL in your case.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby hjd13 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:51 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Fine, so maybe I'm an aberration, maybe not. My sense is, more not.


Clearly, that is your problem. Self Awareness FTL in your case.

Says the guy posting things like viewtopic.php?f=10&t=128322&p=3439282#p3439282

Thank you, I'll take my advice from someone who isn't a RETARD

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:52 pm

OP have you tried doing mock interviews with career services?? Sometimes people can have strange mannerisms or little quirks that they don't even notice until they get feedback on a mock interview. I would recommend trying a couple of mock interviews and applying to some small to midsize firms.

They will want to get a look at you if you can convince them you are serious about wanting to work at a smaller firm. Mass mail and then call to reaffirm interest if you don't get an interview. Also, email alums of your school at the small/medium sized firms you are most interested in--make up reasons for why you want to work there and tell them you would love to hear more about their experiences at the firm. With those grades at a T20, you will get something, but you might have to work a little harder to get it.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Patriot1208 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Fine, so maybe I'm an aberration, maybe not. My sense is, more not.


Clearly, that is your problem. Self Awareness FTL in your case.

Says the guy posting things like http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2#p3439282

Thank you, I'll take my advice from someone who isn't a RETARD


Ok, well before this gets too far off topic, we'll note a couple things.

1) it's funny you felt so offended to spend 15 minutes searching through my old posts
2) it's an off topic forum and people make fun of everyone else
3) If you really are offended by what I posted I'm surprised you would use the word "retard" in such a deragotory way.
4) I may not be as book smart as you, but God knows that the only way someone in ends up in your position is through being a complete and total failure in every way outside of the classroom.

Now before we both get banned (you still might for use of the anon feature) i'm going to stop.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby KMaine » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So I was wrong to just advise this waitress to make sure that it's what she wanted to do and make sure to research the legal market before committing to a three year, $500K (with opportunity cost etc.) venture?


She was going to make $100,000 a year as a waitress? Sign me up!

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:17 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I need some advice here as I'm struggling with this decision. I am Top 10% and law review at a T20 school. However, this has not helped me find a job for the summer. I've done 7 callbacks and have heard nothing good at this point. I still have a few things out there but based on my past response my hopes are not up at all.

I have also applied to a lot of less selective firms, especially in my home town. However, none of them will even give me a look and I'm assuming its because they think I will have better opportunities and won't actually come there. And they would be right if I had any better options. But at this point, it is looking like I will not.

The financial part of this is the hardest part. I want to be a lawyer. If I drop out I really have no idea what I would do. I could see myself starting my own business but I don't have the capital to do so right now. I'm already looking at 95k in student loans after I finish this semester including undergrad. If I finish my degree I'll be looking at 155k in loans. My only other chance at biglaw would be to do so after a clerkship. But, I'm going to be competiting for clerkships against all these people who already beat me out for jobs. Even after a clerkship, a biglaw job is not guaranteed anyway. So then I'll be spending another 60k in loans and I might dig myself a hole that is even deeper. I feel like it might be best to cut my losses at this point and stop throwing good money after bad...
I am at a top 3 school and you have 4 more callbacks than I had, so STFU.


Probably because you are an idiot.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Chupavida » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:29 pm

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby deadhipsters » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:34 pm

KMaine wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So I was wrong to just advise this waitress to make sure that it's what she wanted to do and make sure to research the legal market before committing to a three year, $500K (with opportunity cost etc.) venture?


She was going to make $100,000 a year as a waitress? Sign me up!



That statement exemplifies this thread. The OP has made outlandish statements throughout the entire thread. I seriously doubt anyone coming from a T20 with this class rank is having trouble finding a job. I call shenanigans/ flame. And seriously, if this is the case then go apply to Legal Aid/ other NPO and use IBR to pay off your loans. Dropping out would be insanity, you'd disqualify yourself from using IBR altogether.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:40 pm

Are you all just applying to top firms? Sometimes you got to start at the bottom to get far in life. you will be surprised how many influential ppl are willing to help you. Many times, small firms have great ppl. I do not make a ton of money but in a year I have built quite a good resume thanks to some ppl I have met.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Other25BeforeYou » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:52 pm

KMaine wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So I was wrong to just advise this waitress to make sure that it's what she wanted to do and make sure to research the legal market before committing to a three year, $500K (with opportunity cost etc.) venture?


She was going to make $100,000 a year as a waitress? Sign me up!

KMaine, A. I had the exact same thought, and B. after I saw your comment it turned into an image of you serving drinks dressed as a drag-Marilyn Monroe. Awesome.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby rayiner » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:53 pm

TCR is to take your strong GPA and try to get into PI, etc. You've already got enough debt where saving 60k is less useful than being able to take advantage of IBR.

Also, the people who are striking out at YHS... stop sucking at life... please...

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby vanwinkle » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:54 pm

hjd13 wrote:Thank you, I'll take my advice from someone who isn't a RETARD

Abuse of anon feature + extreme hostility = tempban.

Now, if folks can just stay on topic and try to stay at least a little civil, that'd be a good thing.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Action Jackson » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:06 pm

rayiner wrote:TCR is to take your strong GPA and try to get into PI, etc. You've already got enough debt where saving 60k is less useful than being able to take advantage of IBR.

I'm not sure it's TCR. 25 years doing a low paying job you might not actually want may not be ideal. If you like the work then that's one thing, but if not it's going to be one hell of a life.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby deadhipsters » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:12 pm

Public Interest work is 10 years with no tax penality at the end. It's a solid deal. Using IBR for Personal Injury law would be suicide, but probably better than dropping out.
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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:13 pm

Government work is interesting, pays pretty damn good compared to most careers, and will qualify for debt. Try for that.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby rbgrocio » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14 pm

I find it ironic how everyone says not to go to law school if you are not going to be at a T1. Apparently, based on the comments on this forum (assuming you are all reliable, truthful and credible people) those at T1s are doing much worse than many ppl at T4s

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby let/them/eat/cake » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:21 pm

rbgrocio wrote:I find it ironic how everyone says not to go to law school if you are not going to be at a T1. Apparently, based on the comments on this forum (assuming you are all reliable, truthful and credible people) those at T1s are doing much worse than many ppl at T4s


Jesus H. Most idiotic post i've seen in a while.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby rbgrocio » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:23 pm

let/them/eat/cake wrote:
rbgrocio wrote:I find it ironic how everyone says not to go to law school if you are not going to be at a T1. Apparently, based on the comments on this forum (assuming you are all reliable, truthful and credible people) those at T1s are doing much worse than many ppl at T4s


Jesus H. Most idiotic post i've seen in a while.



Thanks! :)

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Action Jackson » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:25 pm

deadhipsters wrote:Public Interest work is 10 years with no tax penality at the end. It's a solid deal. Using IBR for Personal Injury law would be suicide, but probably better than dropping out.

Is it only 10? Well, that might not be so bad. And by PI I meant public interest. You have to do PI work for IBR, right?

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby dood » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:29 pm

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby deadhipsters » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:37 pm

Action Jackson wrote:
deadhipsters wrote:Public Interest work is 10 years with no tax penality at the end. It's a solid deal. Using IBR for Personal Injury law would be suicide, but probably better than dropping out.

Is it only 10? Well, that might not be so bad. And by PI I meant public interest. You have to do PI work for IBR, right?


Nope, IBR takes 25 years if you enter private practice. Raw deal. But if thats all you then thats all you got. Better than trying to come up with 1200 a month for your 150,000 dollar student loan. 10 years for PI work.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:38 pm

I wanted to ask this quick question:

How much of an edge does being a tall, handsom, assertive-looking young man actually have on chances in the world of law?

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby MrKappus » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I wanted to ask this quick question:

How much of an edge does being a tall, handsom, assertive-looking young man actually have on chances in the world of law?


The same edge it provides in life generally.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby Patriot1208 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:56 pm

MrKappus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I wanted to ask this quick question:

How much of an edge does being a tall, handsom, assertive-looking young man actually have on chances in the world of law?


The same edge it provides in life generally.


Which in the professional world, is a good amount.

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Re: To Drop Out or Graduate?

Postby MrKappus » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:56 pm

^ Truth.




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