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Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:27 am

Just curious for those with offers, were your odds better at landing a callback from a screening interview or an offer from a callback? Might be helpful to provide your school's general range and where you were looking.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby chadwick218 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:34 am

Northwestern.

I received 18 CBs total. I have gone on 12 and have since cancelled the rest. Of the 12 CBs, I have received 9 offers, 1 rejection, and am waiting to hear from 2 firms that I interviewed with in the last week or so.

Best Case Scenario: 91%
Worst Case Scenario: 75%

NALP purports that in 2009, the nationwide CB-Offer Ratio was approximately 36%. Given that fact that many NU students have previously worked before, the CB-Offer Ratio here is believed to between 50-60% (according to career services).

Also, many of my IP classmates have pulled in some high yields w/r/t offers.
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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby yellowjacket2012 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:38 am

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby chadwick218 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:39 am

yellowjacket2012 wrote:But Chad also happens to have a killer personality, so please ignore his data. j/k

Congrats buddy.


And you my friend are IP and have done equally as well.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby yellowjacket2012 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:42 am

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:43 am

Congrats guys, I've been on 7 of 12 in just over a week and things have been quiet. Were your screening odds about the same?

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby chadwick218 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:45 am

I targeted NYC and Texas. I will almost certainly end up in Texas.

It's also worth noting that markets are very different w/r/t timing of offers. For instance, with one exception, all of my NYC offers were received within 3 days of CB.

Unlike peer firms in NYC, many firms in Cali are known to interview the majority of the applicants before handing out any offers. The process tends to be much slower.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Person » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:54 am

Lower T-14, targeting Chicago.

16 screening interviews, for 4 callbacks. (25% ... obviously)

4 callbacks for 1 offer (25% ... again)

You only need one!

I am still to get an answer from the other three, however. It has just been four weeks for two of them, so I am probably backup at best.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby chadwick218 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:56 am

Person wrote:Lower T-14, targeting Chicago.

16 screening interviews, for 4 callbacks. (25% ... obviously)

4 callbacks for 1 offer (25% ... again)

You only need one!


Always something to keep in perspective. Congratulations!

Chicago also might be a market where such ratios are somewhat lower so 25% is likely to be very much so on par.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:19 pm

100% here on 3 CBs...once I get a foot in the door...

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:56 pm

Have you guys found any difference in your success with regards to the size of the summer class at the places you've had callbacks?

My only callback was at a place with a summer class less than 10 people, and I'm worried... :(

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have you guys found any difference in your success with regards to the size of the summer class at the places you've had callbacks?

My only callback was at a place with a summer class less than 10 people, and I'm worried... :(


I think it definitely affects the speed of the process. I'm interviewing for a pretty unique practice group and at each of my 6 CBs the firm was taking 5 or less. Haven't heard yay or nay on any yet. Been a rough week morale-wise. :(

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby chadwick218 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have you guys found any difference in your success with regards to the size of the summer class at the places you've had callbacks?

My only callback was at a place with a summer class less than 10 people, and I'm worried... :(


Across the board, not really. However, I think that the analysis really turns on which market and which firm. Also, firms that have very small starting classes tend to take a very long time. Would you mind sharing which firm? Interestingly enough, the one firm that dinged me gave me an offer in another office.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:16 pm

DNCG targeting Chi/DC/NYC.

13 callbacks -> 7 taken -> 4 offers, 1 waiting, 2 withdrawn.

It is a mistake to be like a lot of TLS/XOXO posters and try to shotgun callbacks. Don't try and play the statistics. That's a sure way to go 0 for 4-5 on CBs.

Whether you get an offer or not after a callback is almost entirely dependent on your performance at the interviews. Go in to each one as if it's your only shot at a job.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:07 pm

13 callbacks, 10 done so far, 0 offers...very close to suicide :(

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:13 callbacks, 10 done so far, 0 offers...very close to suicide :(


What market? If Cali, hang in there. A lot of firms on the west coast like to see everyone first before making offers. If New York, then you start brainstorming which way to go is the least painful?

I have a friend who was in the same boat last year. His GPA placed him in the top 10% at a T10. His grades pretty much gave him automatic CBs. However, his personality was poisonous and he is really a drag to be around. Needless to say, he didn't receive a single offer. You have 3 CBs to go ... I would try to figure things out very quickly.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:13 callbacks, 10 done so far, 0 offers...very close to suicide :(


How long has it been since those CBs?

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:36 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:13 callbacks, 10 done so far, 0 offers...very close to suicide :(


What market? If Cali, hang in there. A lot of firms on the west coast like to see everyone first before making offers. If New York, then you start brainstorming which way to go is the least painful?

I have a friend who was in the same boat last year. His GPA placed him in the top 10% at a T10. His grades pretty much gave him automatic CBs. However, his personality was poisonous and he is really a drag to be around. Needless to say, he didn't receive a single offer. You have 3 CBs to go ... I would try to figure things out very quickly.



Unfortunately, NYC. Most of the CBs are approaching the two-three week mark now. Obviously, my grades played a huge role in getting that # of cbs. I'm probably top 1-2% at a T20/LR/etc. The thing is, I'm not sure what to improve upon. My personality is introverted, certainly, and I am not that charismatic, but at the same time I'm a nice guy who I think is well-prepared for these interviews, especially with good questions. My only guess is that I'm pretty ugly physically, so that might play a part lol. :p

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:38 pm

I started callbacks last week in NYC, so I'm just basing my opinion on what I've witnessed/info received from recruiting coordinators. Most of my callbacks are scheduled at v30s, and all of them at v50s. At the firms that I went to, they were conducting multiple interviews at a time, multiple times a day, every single day. These firms have also interviewed for at least 3 weeks and will continue for another 1-2 weeks or so. I would suspect that the offer odds are less than 1/2 at most NYC offices, considering many of these offices will only have 20-30 summers. Basically, I'm not too optimistic about offer odds after getting a callback.

Also, my school range, MVP. I just started callbacks though, and haven't done most of them yet, so I do not have results to report yet.

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:10 pm

Dncg below median

2/20 screening interviews
1/2 callback to offer

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:45 pm

is there a way for me to tell if my personality is POISONOUS as described in an earlier post?

Is my query into this matter evidence regarding my poisonous personality?

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Re: Your experience with cb versus offer odds

Postby rayiner » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:is there a way for me to tell if my personality is POISONOUS as described in an earlier post?

Is my query into this matter evidence regarding my poisonous personality?


PM me.




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