Agreed. I have a friend who got a DPW offer despite a heavy PI resume pre-law school (counseling and working with kids with disabilities) and continued involvement in PI during law school. He said that every interviewer at every firm asked why he wanted biglaw, but he had ready answers for 1) why he chose law school and 2) why he's now choosing biglaw.Anonymous User wrote: What I am disputing is the notion you expressed earlier, repeatedly, that being PI-heavy on your resume will "kill" your chances and that you have no chance going in of making a case for yourself. That's what you said before and it's ridiculously untrue. You can sell yourself effectively to a firm even if you have a PI-heavy resume, which was my point, and a point you haven't really contradicted.
In fact another poster above said pretty much the same thing, he had a very PI-heavy resume and managed to sell himself to Davis Polk. That directly contradicts what you're saying. There is no "death knell" that you're warning about. It's something that will come up with some firms, sure, but if you've actually prepared yourself to respond and to have enthusiasm for the firm, you're still going to have a shot at an offer there.
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Anonymous User wrote:Yes.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone else with good grades strike out?
How good were both of your grades, and what markets?
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1 DS, 6 Hs, 3 Ps. DC market only.
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I've identified your problem. Whoever convinced you that focusing entirely on one market was a good idea lied to you.Anonymous User wrote:1 DS, 6 Hs, 3 Ps. DC market only.
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Wow, that's really unfortunate. That's almost certainly in the top 20% of the class. Did you have full-time work experience? I heard that hurt this year. I struck out in Chicago with 1 DS, 4 Hs, 5 Ps, and no full-time work experience.Anonymous User wrote:1 DS, 6 Hs, 3 Ps. DC market only.
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I had the same grade break down, targeted NYC and DC. Ended up w/ multiple NYC offers and an offer in DC w/ a V15. No WE. Do you think you did anything wrong in interviews?
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I'm sorry, but even in DC you shouldn't be striking out with those grades (and definitely not in Chicago). It is true that OCS should have been more explicit with people to diversify if they only wanted to do DC, but still. How many CB's did you get?
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Same.Anonymous User wrote:I had the same grade break down, targeted NYC and DC. Ended up w/ multiple NYC offers and an offer in DC w/ a V15. No WE. Do you think you did anything wrong in interviews?
Actually had 1 or more LPs and landed several V15s.
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Who are you? I have the same exact grades, same market, same problem.Anonymous User wrote:1 DS, 6 Hs, 3 Ps. DC market only.
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People with 1 or more LPs are landing V15s, but others with DSs and a plethora of Hs are striking out?
I guess grades don't mean much anymore.
I guess grades don't mean much anymore.
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They can't really distinguish us, so they look at other things.Pablo Ramirez wrote:People with 1 or more LPs are landing V15s, but others with DSs and a plethora of Hs are striking out?
I guess grades don't mean much anymore.
I'm involved in a lot of activities around campus, and also think I interview fairly well.
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Pablo Ramirez wrote:People with 1 or more LPs are landing V15s, but others with DSs and a plethora of Hs are striking out?
I guess grades don't mean much anymore.
Other things, like not being weird or awkward, always mattered. Not a single interviewer during all my callbacks even had my transcript in front of them. It was all about fit and interest. At most firms, grades are just an initial screen to get you past EIP. Beyond that they don't matter, and if you're awkward or have a shitty resume your callbacks aren't going to turn into offers.
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0 in Chicago with 4H+1DS (with 15 Chicago screeners). I know someone else with 4Hs who only got one in Chicago, and that at a non-Vault firm. My best theory is still the lack of work experience thing. I did have some callbacks in another market and got offers at all of them, so I don't think I was too awkward in interviews...Anonymous User wrote:I'm sorry, but even in DC you shouldn't be striking out with those grades (and definitely not in Chicago). It is true that OCS should have been more explicit with people to diversify if they only wanted to do DC, but still. How many CB's did you get?
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