Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

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Second Wave?

Yes.
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No.
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I can't wait for this to be over.
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markymark
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Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby markymark » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:41 am

Some people swear there will be another wave of callbacks while others think those people are delusional. TLS decide.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Pablo Ramirez » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:49 am

It is time to bury the dead.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby 270910 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:51 am

Both sides are right. There will absolutely be another wave at some firms - but it will be small enough that assuming it won't happen won't, on an individual level, often be incorrect.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby rayiner » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:08 pm

disco_barred wrote:Both sides are right. There will absolutely be another wave at some firms - but it will be small enough that assuming it won't happen won't, on an individual level, often be incorrect.


Taking writing advice from Scalia are we?

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby 270910 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:10 pm

rayiner wrote:
disco_barred wrote:Both sides are right. There will absolutely be another wave at some firms - but it will be small enough that assuming it won't happen won't, on an individual level, often be incorrect.


Taking writing advice from Scalia are we?


My triple negatives flow like poetry. BACK OFF, MAN.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby rayiner » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:11 pm

disco_barred wrote:
rayiner wrote:
disco_barred wrote:Both sides are right. There will absolutely be another wave at some firms - but it will be small enough that assuming it won't happen won't, on an individual level, often be incorrect.


Taking writing advice from Scalia are we?


My triple negatives flow like poetry. BACK OFF, MAN.


Is Scalia going to have to choke a bitch?

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby dbt » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:28 pm

rayiner wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
rayiner wrote:
disco_barred wrote:Both sides are right. There will absolutely be another wave at some firms - but it will be small enough that assuming it won't happen won't, on an individual level, often be incorrect.


Taking writing advice from Scalia are we?


My triple negatives flow like poetry. BACK OFF, MAN.


Is Scalia going to have to choke a bitch?


Is Scalia going to have to have another baby!?!?

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:34 pm

Yes, they exist. The amount will vary by market. I know it is standard practice for large Chicago firms now

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby radek » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:36 pm

Yes. I also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Kohinoor » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Some people swear there will be another wave of callbacks while others think those people are delusional. TLS decide.

It has to be real. Even the most elite firms, and perhaps especially the most elite firms, can't predict with complete accuracy whether their offers will be accepted.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:17 pm

radek wrote:Yes. I also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.


Did you just spell "Santa Clause" like the movie?!

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Indubitably » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:23 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Some people swear there will be another wave of callbacks while others think those people are delusional. TLS decide.

It has to be real. Even the most elite firms, and perhaps especially the most elite firms, can't predict with complete accuracy whether their offers will be accepted.

That's why they have more callbacks than offers. I think at most firms the "wave" will happen with respect to offers, not callbacks.

Obviously, this is not based on empirical data.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby radek » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:28 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
radek wrote:Yes. I also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.


Did you just spell "Santa Clause" like the movie?!


:oops:

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Unemployed » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:48 pm

callbacks, no. Offers, yes.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Kohinoor » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:56 pm

Indubitably wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Some people swear there will be another wave of callbacks while others think those people are delusional. TLS decide.

It has to be real. Even the most elite firms, and perhaps especially the most elite firms, can't predict with complete accuracy whether their offers will be accepted.

That's why they have more callbacks than offers. I think at most firms the "wave" will happen with respect to offers, not callbacks.

Obviously, this is not based on empirical data.

But firms have hard targets for their SA class. Their model, especially ITE, makes more sense to undershoot slightly on wave 1 then compensate on wave 2 rather than risk massively oversubscribing with a big wave 1.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby RVP11 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Unemployed wrote:callbacks, no. Offers, yes.


This.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Kohinoor » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:40 pm

RVP11 wrote:
Unemployed wrote:callbacks, no. Offers, yes.


This.

Whoops. I've been making the wrong argument. I believe in the second wave of offers not callbacks.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:45 pm

There has to be a chance for a second wave of callbacks, given that 3 of the 4 firms I am waiting to hear from have done both callbacks and dings.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby radek » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:There has to be a chance for a second wave of callbacks, given that 3 of the 4 firms I am waiting to hear from have done both callbacks and dings.


Or they could just be waiting to do a second round of dings (as in dinging everyone they may currently have in the "hold" group).

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:06 pm

radek wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:There has to be a chance for a second wave of callbacks, given that 3 of the 4 firms I am waiting to hear from have done both callbacks and dings.


Or they could just be waiting to do a second round of dings (as in dinging everyone they may currently have in the "hold" group).


If there is a "hold" group, then that means there is some chance of a second wave.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:08 pm

Several hiring attorneys I have interviewed with bemoan the "drawn out" nature of this process. This leads me to believe that if there is a second wave of CBs, it will be much smaller than the first.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:22 pm

How are you all defining "second wave"? My school's OCI ended a week and a half ago, but it seems like people have gotten callbacks from all the firms I'm still waiting on. Is the mythical second wave my only hope, or is it still early enough in the game that I could get a regular callback?

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby 20160810 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:31 pm

Firms are still doing screeners at my school for another 2 weeks. Since some schools start OCI so late, I think it's totally safe to say more callbacks are coming, depending on the firm.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby Cavalier » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:31 pm

I'm sure it happens - I doubt every firm will successfully fill its summer class from the offers it makes to the people initially called back - but I wouldn't count on getting a second-wave callback at any particular firm.

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Re: Do you believe in the second wave of callbacks?

Postby spanktheduck » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:35 pm

There will most likely not be a second wave of cbs. There wasn't last year and there won't be one this year. I am sorry if you are waiting on a firm, but if others have heard back and you have not, you are likely dinged. There will be the random cb or late offer made, but these will be rare. Some smaller markets hire later and have a longer hiring period, but those are generally firms you will contact on your own. Firms that come to OCI will not be doing a second wave of callbacks. Offers are more likely, but even there, it won't be substantial.




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