Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

(On Campus Interviews, Summer Associate positions, Firm Reviews, Tips, ...)
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting

Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.

Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
Anonymous User
Posts: 273242
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:21 pm

ToTransferOrNot wrote:bus cas does mean polo, at some places. Not for this interview though.

Slacks, dress shirt w/o tie, blazer is pretty much the only credited response here.


OP here. How essential is the blazer? I have one that's a bit beat up. Am I okay going into the interview with just shirt sleeves?

ToTransferOrNot
Posts: 1928
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:45 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
ToTransferOrNot wrote:bus cas does mean polo, at some places. Not for this interview though.

Slacks, dress shirt w/o tie, blazer is pretty much the only credited response here.


OP here. How essential is the blazer? I have one that's a bit beat up. Am I okay going into the interview with just shirt sleeves?


Every guy should have a good navy blazer anyway - go buy one that isn't beat up. That said, no blazer > visibly beat-up blazer.

User avatar
mbw
Posts: 343
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:56 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby mbw » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:00 pm

I went looking for a picture, but forgot how to link it (duh)...

There's a pic, and description, on this page: http://www.focusonstyle.com/In-Focus/Fa ... othesstyle

Essentially, slacks, blazer, dress shirt with or without a tie. I'm old school (being, well, old and all,) so I would go with tie - although a more casual style.

User avatar
clintonius
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:50 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby clintonius » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:44 pm

mbw wrote:I went looking for a picture, but forgot how to link it (duh)...

There's a pic, and description, on this page: http://www.focusonstyle.com/In-Focus/Fa ... othesstyle

Essentially, slacks, blazer, dress shirt with or without a tie. I'm old school (being, well, old and all,) so I would go with tie - although a more casual style.
That web site uses a photo of Steven Seagal to illustrate "approachable, conscientious, less authoritative, flexible, and relaxed." Don't listen to it. (Also, you don't need a jacket for business casual, though it won't hurt, as long as you avoid ties and make sure it's a blazer with slacks instead of a suit)

User avatar
kazu
Posts: 1602
Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:35 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby kazu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:51 pm

clintonius wrote:]That web site uses a photo of Steven Seagal to illustrate "approachable, conscientious, less authoritative, flexible, and relaxed."

:lol:

User avatar
smokyroom26
Posts: 253
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:56 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby smokyroom26 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:14 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. This is anonymous because this is probably the only firm at my school's OCI with this dress code so it would out me as having a CB with the firm.

It's going to be hot as hell where I'm interviewing so I'm not going to wear a blazer. Is this a faux paus? I'll wear a long-sleeved shirt, but I have a feeling the partners interviewing me will look at me like I'm retarded if I wear a jacket or blazer.

What I'll wear: blue shirt, black slacks and shoes, black belt, superman underwear

edit: and, of course, black socks



Thumbs up.

Don't wear a blazer if it's a million degrees out.

User avatar
vamedic03
Posts: 1579
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:50 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby vamedic03 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:33 am

Action Jackson wrote:
vamedic03 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:dress shirt, slacks, dress shoes, no tie, no jacket?


No. You should wear dress shirt, slacks, tie, and sports coat or blazer - this will certainly meet or exceed their expectations of business casual. Its always better to be better dressed than you need to be rather than underdressed.

Not really. If they say business casual and you show up wearing a tie that means you either didn't read the email/listened to their instructions or you're SUPER stuffy. If you're lucky the first person that sees might mention that you didn't need the tie and you can take it off, but if not you might come off looking poorly.


This is BS - a tie isn't super stuffy and, honestly, is often times part of business casual... Maybe west coast it'd be OK to not have a tie...

User avatar
romothesavior
Posts: 14772
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby romothesavior » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:06 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
This is BS - a tie isn't super stuffy and, honestly, is often times part of business casual... Maybe west coast it'd be OK to not have a tie...


Eh... for what the OP will be wearing (dress slacks, a dress shirt, and possibly a blazer), a tie instantly turns that into NOT business casual.

OP, follow the instructions. Do not wear a tie. If you really want to be safe, I guess you could put a tie in your inside pocket of the blazer and put it on if you get a chance and you feel the need. But this place is saying to go with business casual, so go with business casual.

User avatar
MikeSpivey
Posts: 2608
Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 4:28 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:21 pm

Exactly what romothesavior said.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273242
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:22 pm

OP - if the firm is Quinn Emanuel, then I wouldn't over think it. They have no dress code - so they were just recommending business casual so you don't feel out of place when you visit. The people interviewing you will likely be in jeans, shorts, and flip-flops. No need to wear a blazer if you don't want to.

hiro86
Posts: 137
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:10 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby hiro86 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:27 pm

When going through recruiting in undergrad, business casual meant dress shirt with dress pants, no tie and no jacket (for 99% of the guys). There was one kid that wore a jacket to interviews that were business casual and he definitely stood out, but not in a good way. I understand that law is supposed to more formal or whatever, but you can't go wrong with straightforward business casual. Wearing a jacket is totally unnecessary and is much more likely to be out of place. I've never heard of a workplace that is business casual where a lot of people still wear jackets. And also, a tie is not part of any business casual that I have seen.

iiifly
Posts: 57
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:57 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby iiifly » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:37 pm

OK let me inject me two cents into this. Background: I am involved in hiring decisions at a consulting firm which I still work for full time (I attend LS part time).

It is best to not over dress and at the same time not to under dress either. Think of it as a bell shaped curve with the middle being the points you get for matching the firm's style. The more you over dress the less points you get, and the more you under dress the less points you'll get (OK, perhaps you'll get penalized more on the under dressing side of the spectrum). WITH THAT SAID, find out what their dress code is and match it exactly - and you will have an UNDUE advantage over other candidates that sets you apart. It's subconscious, it'll make them feel like you fit right in to their "style."

dougroberts
Posts: 223
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:18 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby dougroberts » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:14 pm

Perhaps you could go with a Dress shirt (preferably white with light square outlines -- makes you look smart), and high-quality wool v-neck sweater on top (color matching the square outlines), and charcoal gray slacks. No tie.

Sort of like this man:
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=59878&vid=1&pid=769350&scid=769350002

ClerkGuy2010
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:19 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby ClerkGuy2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:34 pm

What city? Business casual in San Fran means something different than business casual in NYC.

Pearalegal
Posts: 1433
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:50 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby Pearalegal » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:47 pm

This has gotten out of hand. In the vast majority of the country, business casual means slacks, with a button down shirt and leather belt and shoes. I've been to big law firms all over the country, and this is what the men wear in almost all of them on a day-to-day basis.

Make sure you're clean and not wrinkled, you'll be fine. Its hot as heck, so a blazer is actually a faux pas. Plus, you'll be sweaty and icky, and that's never a good impression.

Don't wear a tie.

User avatar
nematoad
Posts: 421
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:06 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby nematoad » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:53 pm

ToTransferOrNot wrote:
Renzo wrote:1. Put on a suit

2. Pretend you just got out of work, and you're going to meet the guys for a beer, but you don't have time to change

3. Remove the amount of clothing you feel would be appropriate for such an occasion

4. There! You're business casual!


No. Wearing a full suit without a tie just looks hokey. Bus cas = non-"suited" pants/jacket.


well then you'd be one of few to leave your jacket on when you're hangin with your brosers. aren't suit pants pretty much the same thing as slacks? I actually really like this renzo.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273242
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:12 pm

ClerkGuy2010 wrote:What city? Business casual in San Fran means something different than business casual in NYC.


OP here. We're talkin west coast business casual

The Real Jack McCoy
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:55 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby The Real Jack McCoy » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:15 pm

clintonius wrote:
mbw wrote:I went looking for a picture, but forgot how to link it (duh)...

There's a pic, and description, on this page: http://www.focusonstyle.com/In-Focus/Fa ... othesstyle

Essentially, slacks, blazer, dress shirt with or without a tie. I'm old school (being, well, old and all,) so I would go with tie - although a more casual style.
That web site uses a photo of Steven Seagal to illustrate "approachable, conscientious, less authoritative, flexible, and relaxed."Don't listen to it. (Also, you don't need a jacket for business casual, though it won't hurt, as long as you avoid ties and make sure it's a blazer with slacks instead of a suit)


Also an acceptable response.

User avatar
nematoad
Posts: 421
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:06 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby nematoad » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
ClerkGuy2010 wrote:What city? Business casual in San Fran means something different than business casual in NYC.


OP here. We're talkin west coast business casual

o well in that case just check out http://www.jcrew.com it's fun to be fashionable.

User avatar
underdawg
Posts: 1131
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:15 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby underdawg » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:41 pm

i prefer to wear shirt + tie but no jacket. i thought biz-cas means dress shirt and pants + either (1) nothing, (2) tie, (3) jacket.

iuno

User avatar
CG614
Posts: 825
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:26 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby CG614 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:14 am

I can't believe this thread has 40+ posts. Sometimes, I feel like law students lack common sense. Don't sweat the small stuff, your choice of outfit, if at a minimum appropriate, will not be nearly as important as your charisma. The fact that you are stressing this small detail so much, does not give me confidence that you will fit in with their more laid back approach to firm life. Best of luck.

User avatar
vamedic03
Posts: 1579
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:50 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:39 am

CG614 wrote:I can't believe this thread has 40+ posts. Sometimes, I feel like law students lack common sense. Don't sweat the small stuff, your choice of outfit, if at a minimum appropriate, will not be nearly as important as your charisma. The fact that you are stressing this small detail so much, does not give me confidence that you will fit in with their more laid back approach to firm life. Best of luck.


Really?! Thanks for the 0L advice... OCI and CB's are extremely stressful regardless of the firm culture, and, even firms that are business casual don't necessarily take a "laid back approach"

User avatar
PKSebben
Posts: 993
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:35 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby PKSebben » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:25 am

iiifly wrote:OK let me inject me two cents into this. Background: I am involved in hiring decisions at a consulting firm which I still work for full time (I attend LS part time).

It is best to not over dress and at the same time not to under dress either. Think of it as a bell shaped curve with the middle being the points you get for matching the firm's style. The more you over dress the less points you get, and the more you under dress the less points you'll get (OK, perhaps you'll get penalized more on the under dressing side of the spectrum). WITH THAT SAID, find out what their dress code is and match it exactly - and you will have an UNDUE advantage over other candidates that sets you apart. It's subconscious, it'll make them feel like you fit right in to their "style."


the capitalization and the use of the word "undue" in this post makes me lol. I like how people go to law school and everything they write has to include words they learned this year. If he learns the firm culture and does something that matches it, it's not really an "undue" advantage. It's certainly not an UNDUE advantage.

ClerkGuy2010
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:19 pm

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby ClerkGuy2010 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:
ClerkGuy2010 wrote:What city? Business casual in San Fran means something different than business casual in NYC.


OP here. We're talkin west coast business casual


Then I can't imagine that even a tie or blazer is necessary. A nice button-up shirt with black slacks will be plenty and will look really sharp.

User avatar
Stanford4Me
Posts: 6047
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:23 am

Re: Firm told me to wear business casual to a CB. What to wear?

Postby Stanford4Me » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:29 am

CG614 wrote:I'd wear something business casual.




Return to “Legal Employment”

Who is online

The online users are hidden on this forum.