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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:49 am

Anonymous User wrote:I hear the Dallas office is completely different, though, both in personality and feel. Don't mean to knock the firm at either office, though... I guess it probably just wasn't the right fit for me.


As in Dallas may be better or worse? Great post. Thoughts on general would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:57 am

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Anonymous User wrote:I hear the Dallas office is completely different, though, both in personality and feel. Don't mean to knock the firm at either office, though... I guess it probably just wasn't the right fit for me.


As in Dallas may be better or worse? Great post. Thoughts on general would be greatly appreciated.

I heard from multiple sources that the Dallas office was better, and based on the comments on here by people who have accepted offers there, I tend to believe it. I haven't seen the Dallas office, though, so take it fwiw.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:13 pm

I wanted to give an update on LLBL in Houston. As nearly four weeks have elapsed since the first flyback day, I called yesterday afternoon to let them know that I would be accepting another summer offer.

They apologized for not getting back with me sooner. They indicated that only a few offers and rejections had gone out and that they hope to be making final decisions this week. Good luck to those still in the hunt!

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I wanted to give an update on LLBL in Houston. As nearly four weeks have elapsed since the first flyback day, I called yesterday afternoon to let them know that I would be accepting another summer offer.

They apologized for not getting back with me sooner. They indicated that only a few offers and rejections had gone out and that they hope to be making final decisions this week. Good luck to those still in the hunt!


Thanks for the update.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:55 pm

CB @ JW last Tuesday. Rejection letter received in the mail today. Boy, that was quick!

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:56 pm

Has anyone received a post-CB rejection letter from Akin Gump?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:04 pm

So what firms in Dallas cancelled their summer programs? Munsch? Strasburger?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:13 pm

Anyone else going to the Bickel & Brewer call-back weekend?

Any thoughts on how to approach a B&B call-back?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone else going to the Bickel & Brewer call-back weekend?

Any thoughts on how to approach a B&B call-back?


I'm not targeting litigation, but would be very interested in hearing more about Bickel's CB "weekend."

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:30 pm

I'll be accepting BB Dallas tomorrow morning. I'll split with either AK or Weil (assuming that I receive an offer from Weil). Does anyone else anticipate working at BB next summer?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:48 pm

Has or does anyone else plan to accept Andrews Kurth Dallas?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'll be accepting BB Dallas tomorrow morning. I'll split with either AK or Weil (assuming that I receive an offer from Weil). Does anyone else anticipate working at BB next summer?

You can split with BB and Weil? I didn't know Weil allowed second-half splits. Pretty cool.

On that note, I think I'm going to accept LLBL Houston tomorrow. I'm really nervous about splitting the summer in general, but I don't want to miss the opportunity. Anyone else agonizing over that decision? I'll be splitting them with either one of the big 3 or JD.

Anyway, congrats again! What was the BB Dallas office like, btw? It was a point of discussion earlier, and I'm curious...

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:05 am

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Anonymous User wrote:I'll be accepting BB Dallas tomorrow morning. I'll split with either AK or Weil (assuming that I receive an offer from Weil). Does anyone else anticipate working at BB next summer?

You can split with BB and Weil? I didn't know Weil allowed second-half splits. Pretty cool.

On that note, I think I'm going to accept LLBL Houston tomorrow. I'm really nervous about splitting the summer in general, but I don't want to miss the opportunity. Anyone else agonizing over that decision? I'll be splitting them with either one of the big 3 or JD.

Anyway, congrats again! What was the BB Dallas office like, btw? It was a point of discussion earlier, and I'm curious...


I really liked BB Dallas. The people seemed to fit my personality very well. While there does seem to be a more serious vibe to the firm, arrogance wasn't an issue (as I experienced at V&E Dallas). I also found people at BB to be a little more social than those at V&E. Some of the associates that I met at V&E were a little awkward.

As for as the bldg goes, BB shares the same bldg as V&E. Overall, I thought that it was very nice. Jones Day probably has the nicest offices though (at least of the biglaw firms in Dallas).

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:35 pm

I called to decline an offer from JD Dallas today.

They nevertheless seemed very appreciative of my call and indicated that they have only heard back from a couple of their offers (again, suggesting that no further offers will likely go out until those with offers respond).

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I called to decline an offer from JD Dallas today.

They nevertheless seemed very appreciative of my call and indicated that they have only heard back from a couple of their offers (again, suggesting that no further offers will likely go out until those with offers respond).

Ya, they're a bit stretched out right now... apparently most of the SA positions are already filled, and about 9 (more) are pending. Not sure how to feel about that... might push me to accept my other offers instead. Waiting too long seems like a bad idea.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:43 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I called to decline an offer from JD Dallas today.

They nevertheless seemed very appreciative of my call and indicated that they have only heard back from a couple of their offers (again, suggesting that no further offers will likely go out until those with offers respond).

Ya, they're a bit stretched out right now... apparently most of the SA positions are already filled, and about 9 (more) are pending. Not sure how to feel about that... might push me to accept my other offers instead. Waiting too long seems like a bad idea.


Interesting. So they have 9 or so offers outstanding, but only have capacity to take on a couple more? What other offers are you considering?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:47 pm

I posted this is another thread. The following list summarizes Chambers Rankings by firm in Texas. The list is also targeted primarily towards transactional work (given my preferences).

Andrews Kurth
Banking & Finance (Band 2)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 3)
Corporate/M&A (Band 2)
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 3)
Intellectual Property (NR)
Technology (Band 1)

Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld
Banking & Finance (NR)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 4)
Corporate/M&A (Band 2)
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 3)
Intellectual Property (Band 4)
Technology (NR)

Baker Botts
Banking & Finance (Band 2)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 2)
Corporate/M&A (Band 1)
Real Estate (Band 1)
Tax (Band 1)
Intellectual Property (Band 1)
Technology (Band 1)

Bracewell & Giuliani
Banking & Finance (Band 1)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 3)
Corporate/M&A (Band 3)
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 4)
Intellectual Property (Band 3)
Technology (NR)

Haynes & Boone
Banking & Finance (Band 2)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 1)
Corporate/M&A (Band 3)
Real Estate (Band 1)
Tax (Band 4)
Intellectual Property (Band 3)
Technology (NR)

Gardere Wynne & Sewell
Banking & Finance (NR)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 2)
Corporate/M&A (NR)
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 3)
Intellectual Property (NR)
Technology (NR)

Fulbright & Jaworski
Banking & Finance (Band 3)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 1)
Corporate/M&A (Band 4)
Real Estate (Band 3)
Tax (Band 2)
Intellectual Property (Band 2)
Technology (Band 2)

Jones Day
Banking & Finance (Band 3)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 4)
Corporate/M&A (Band 2)
Real Estate (Band 3)
Tax (Band 4)
Intellectual Property (Band 2)
Technology (Band 2)

Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell
Banking & Finance (Band 4)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (NR)
Corporate/M&A (Band 4)
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 3)
Intellectual Property (Band 4)
Technology (NR)

Thompson Knight
Banking & Finance (Band 2)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 3)
Corporate/M&A
Real Estate (Band 2)
Tax (Band 2)
Intellectual Property (Band 3)
Technology (NR)

Vinson & Elkins
Banking & Finance (Band 1)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 1)
Corporate/M&A (Band 1)
Real Estate (Band 1)
Tax (Band 1)
Intellectual Property (Band 2)
Technology (Band 2)

Weil Gotshal & Manges
Banking & Finance (Band 2)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (Band 2)
Corporate/M&A (Band 1)
Real Estate (NR)
Tax (NR)
Intellectual Property (Band 2)
Technology (NR)

Winstead
Banking & Finance (Band 3)
Bankruptcy/Financial Restructuring (NR)
Corporate/M&A (NR)
Real Estate (Band 1)
Tax (Band 4)
Intellectual Property (Band 4)
Technology (NR)

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:57 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I called to decline an offer from JD Dallas today.

They nevertheless seemed very appreciative of my call and indicated that they have only heard back from a couple of their offers (again, suggesting that no further offers will likely go out until those with offers respond).

Ya, they're a bit stretched out right now... apparently most of the SA positions are already filled, and about 9 (more) are pending. Not sure how to feel about that... might push me to accept my other offers instead. Waiting too long seems like a bad idea.


Interesting. So they have 9 or so offers outstanding, but only have capacity to take on a couple more? What other offers are you considering?

I guess so. Considering V&E and LLBL.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I guess so. Considering V&E and LLBL.


Are you targeting litigation or transactional work? If transactional, V&E seems to be the best choice. I was really turned off by many of JD's corporate attorneys. They all seemed to be really burned out and lacking in personality.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:36 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I guess so. Considering V&E and LLBL.


Are you targeting litigation or transactional work? If transactional, V&E seems to be the best choice. I was really turned off by many of JD's corporate attorneys. They all seemed to be really burned out and lacking in personality.

I'm going for litigation. I've heard there's a bit of a difference b/w shops. I had a good experience there.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:44 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I guess so. Considering V&E and LLBL.


Are you targeting litigation or transactional work? If transactional, V&E seems to be the best choice. I was really turned off by many of JD's corporate attorneys. They all seemed to be really burned out and lacking in personality.

I'm going for litigation. I've heard there's a bit of a difference b/w shops. I had a good experience there.


This complicates matters. I take it that you Locke Lord offer is in Dallas and not Houston so splitting is out of the question. For litigation, I might actually lean towards Jones Day given their national reach. Also, Locke Lord really does have much better litigation practice than corporate practice vis-a-vis other firms.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:59 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I guess so. Considering V&E and LLBL.


Are you targeting litigation or transactional work? If transactional, V&E seems to be the best choice. I was really turned off by many of JD's corporate attorneys. They all seemed to be really burned out and lacking in personality.

I'm going for litigation. I've heard there's a bit of a difference b/w shops. I had a good experience there.


This complicates matters. I take it that you Locke Lord offer is in Dallas and not Houston so splitting is out of the question. For litigation, I might actually lean towards Jones Day given their national reach. Also, Locke Lord really does have much better litigation practice than corporate practice vis-a-vis other firms.

Actually, the LLBL is for Houston, so I'm strongly considering splitting. I know the litigation partners I met there were AWESOME. I haven't heard much about their actual litigation practice in Houston, though.

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Actually, the LLBL is for Houston, so I'm strongly considering splitting. I know the litigation partners I met there were AWESOME. I haven't heard much about their actual litigation practice in Houston, though.

Made the decision to accept their offer. Looking forward to the summer!

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:56 pm

I have a related question for those who've decided on Texas firms and considering splitting. Will it be a bad idea to split with a non-Texas firm?

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Re: Texas Markets - OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:34 am

Susman has started giving offers. Received the call today. I believe they are taking two in the Houston office, and perhaps one in NYC/other offices, for a total of three, although I could be wrong on the upper bound.




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