PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

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PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 270910 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:57 pm

I'm making a post because I think some people may not realize it and it's very important.

Every firm is different, but it's very common for firms to do callbacks in waves. It makes the "LOL POST IF YOU GOT A CALLBACK" threads very dangerous because there's a good chance a small number of people will get a pile of early callbacks without it meaning a hell of a lot for the other people who interviewed at the firm.

Just something to keep in mind as recruiting season begins in earnest.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Cavalier » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:30 pm

Not true at all. If you don't get a callback halfway through the screening interview, you're fucked.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:39 pm

Cavalier wrote:Not true at all. If you don't get a callback halfway through the screening interview, you're fucked.


Half way? Unless the first thing they say is "you're obviously getting an offer, so what do you want to know?" you're fucked.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby zanda » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:51 pm

ToTransferOrNot wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Not true at all. If you don't get a callback halfway through the screening interview, you're fucked.


Half way? Unless the first thing they say is "you're obviously getting an offer, so what do you want to know?" you're fucked.

If you've decided law school is the path for you, you're fucked.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:52 pm

zanda wrote:
ToTransferOrNot wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Not true at all. If you don't get a callback halfway through the screening interview, you're fucked.


Half way? Unless the first thing they say is "you're obviously getting an offer, so what do you want to know?" you're fucked.

If you've decided law school is the path for you, you're fucked.


Damnit!

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Cavalier » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:53 pm

zanda wrote:
ToTransferOrNot wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Not true at all. If you don't get a callback halfway through the screening interview, you're fucked.

Half way? Unless the first thing they say is "you're obviously getting an offer, so what do you want to know?" you're fucked.

If you've decided law school is the path for you, you're fucked.

Haha, this is actually credited.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby megaTTTron » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:59 pm

this thread is waaaay better than I anticipated

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 20160810 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:12 pm

megaTTTron wrote:this thread is waaaay better than I anticipated

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby underdawg » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:16 pm

in my experience last year, if i didn't hear back from a firm while people were reporting CB's from that firm, i didn't get that callback. but y'know, what do i know

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 270910 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:21 pm

underdawg wrote:in my experience last year, if i didn't hear back from a firm while people were reporting CB's from that firm, i didn't get that callback. but y'know, what do i know


There are definitely firms that do it all at once. But there's also a huge response bias / statistical issue in that most people won't get CBs from most firms they interview, and most of the anon posting will happen when it's fresh in everyone's minds and recent.

Regions are different too. One obvious example is that NYC, by and large, moves much faster than DC.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 09042014 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:22 pm

I don't start law school for two weeks, but I haven't gotten a CB, should I kill myself?

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Cavalier » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I don't start law school for two weeks, but I haven't gotten a CB, should I kill myself?

Yeah, probably. Most people enter law school with a couple dozen callbacks.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:26 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I don't start law school for two weeks, but I haven't gotten a CB, should I kill myself?


Dont worry, having no callbacks is good practice for hwere you'll be in October next year. So this is good practice for you.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 270910 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:27 pm

Danger: XO content ahead

A poster from XO wrote:waiting for EIP callbacks was the single most stressful thing i experienced in LS. between retaking the bar and redoing EIP, i don't know what i'd rather do.

remember one thing: the 24 hr rule is bullshit. some firms notify in 24 hrs, others don't. more importantly, within the same firm some partners notify in 24 hrs and others don't.

just to use as examples 2 firms posted in this thread, i thought my davis and debevoise interviews both went really well, but didn't hear anything for 4-5 days. lots of other people had heard back the same day for both firms. i was fucking gutted. turned out that one partner flew to europe the day after EIP and the other partner got sucked into a huge closing, so neither had gotten around to looking at their EIP files.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby let/them/eat/cake » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:28 pm

I'm going to believe this bc I want to. Willkie might still call!

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 270910 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:29 pm

let/them/eat/cake wrote:I'm going to believe this bc I want to. Willkie might still call!


I mean look, any given firm any given person interviews with is unlikely to extend them a callback. You can't predict this shit reliably. But it's definitely good not to get sucked into the gossip and drama etc.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby OperaSoprano » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:36 pm

megaTTTron wrote:this thread is waaaay better than I anticipated


With all of you posting in it, how could it not be?

Congrats to the recently (and about to be) called back!

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby presh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:29 pm

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby 270910 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:31 pm

presh wrote:Huh, I had never even heard of the 24 hour rule. Oh well, pretending it doesn't exist will be less stressful anyway.


AJO:GHASF. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO 24 HOUR RULE.

At some firms, and/or for some candidates, and/or at some schools in some circumstances, there may be callbacks within 24 hours. But there's hardly a hard and fast rule. You don't need to 'pretend' it away. It ain't a rule.

CHILL GUYS.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby presh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:39 pm

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby profs<3mycomments » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:40 pm

Disco, you're obviously smart and do a lot of research, but you also always have this tone like you've done this before, but IIRC you're a rising 2L, so you haven't. Not saying you should STFU, I'm just saying, you're not my mom, don't boss me around.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Zugzwang » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:42 pm

profs<3mycomments wrote:Not saying you should STFU, I'm just saying, you're not my mom, don't boss me around.

Don't tell him what to do!

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:52 pm

profs<3mycomments wrote:Disco, you're obviously smart and do a lot of research, but you also always have this tone like you've done this before, but IIRC you're a rising 2L, so you haven't. Not saying you should STFU, I'm just saying, you're not my mom, don't boss me around.


i mean this post in as nice a tone as possible, but THIS.

many firms DO make callbacks all at once.

i HAVE received callbacks within 24 hours.

Disco is a great resource but his source is often, uh, himself.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby El_Gallo » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:55 pm

Zugzwang wrote:profs<3mycomments wrote:
Not saying you should STFU, I'm just saying, you're not my mom, don't boss me around.

Don't tell him what to do!


Yeah, never question the wisdom of TLSers that have over a thousand posts. They have reached God status and thus are infallible.

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Re: PSA: Most firms don't make all callback offers at once

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
profs<3mycomments wrote:Disco, you're obviously smart and do a lot of research, but you also always have this tone like you've done this before, but IIRC you're a rising 2L, so you haven't. Not saying you should STFU, I'm just saying, you're not my mom, don't boss me around.


i mean this post in as nice a tone as possible, but THIS.

many firms DO make callbacks all at once.

i HAVE received callbacks within 24 hours.

Disco is a great resource but his source is often, uh, himself.


I have as well, but I don't think the point was that it NEVER happened. More along the lines of it doesn't ALWAYS happen, so don't killself if it doesn't happen right away.




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