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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby RVP11 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:09 pm

Have hope, guys.

I have a feeling DC alternate slots are more likely to net interviews than any others, as Law Review grade-on people were brave enough to bid entirely DC and are going to have to cut a lot to get down to 30.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:20 pm

Friendly PSA: I just received a new "Top 5" preselect interview. They're still coming in apparently.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:17 pm

Another PSA - I just had an Alternate switch to a Preselect

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby YCrevolution » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:25 pm

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:32 pm

YCrevolution wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Another PSA - I just had an Alternate switch to a Preselect

A top 5 one?


No, not a Top 5

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Another PSA - I just had an Alternate switch to a Preselect

A top 5 one?


No, not a Top 5


I guess that Alternate switching occurs real time?

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby YCrevolution » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:38 pm

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Kohinoor » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:22 am

Anonymous User wrote:Another PSA - I just had an Alternate switch to a Preselect

Same. It can't be the 30 pre-select lockout trickle down effect either since that doesn't trigger yet. Some firms on the fence or something?

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby YCrevolution » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:26 am

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Kohinoor » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:36 am

YCrevolution wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Another PSA - I just had an Alternate switch to a Preselect

Same. It can't be the 30 pre-select lockout trickle down effect either since that doesn't trigger yet. Some firms on the fence or something?

It's all very odd, especially since I though Symplicity itself wasn't supposed to fill in empty preselect spots with alternates until preselect acceptance ends.

I'm just waiting for those not invited's to turn into pre-selects!
*rolls dice*
I'm irrationally unhappy about this because I have fewer alternates now. Yes, I know that makes no sense.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby RVP11 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:08 am

So have we figured out how a non-Top 5 alternate can turn into a preselect?

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby vamedic03 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:12 am

I figure there are three possibilities:

1) Some firms still weren't done with their preselects

2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?

3) When you decline an interview, its irreversible

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby RVP11 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:16 am

vamedic03 wrote:2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?


If this was happening, it's totally gaming the system on the firm's part.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby vamedic03 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:18 am

RVP11 wrote:
vamedic03 wrote:2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?


If this was happening, it's totally gaming the system on the firm's part.


I would bet a money against that happening / being allowed... but, its one of the only 3 possibilities I can think of (though, I wasn't very good with the logic games on the LSAT)

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Kohinoor » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:24 am

vamedic03 wrote:I figure there are three possibilities:

1) Some firms still weren't done with their preselects

2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?

3) When you decline an interview, its irreversible

4) Somebody messed something up. <= Strong contender.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby showNprove » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:11 am

vamedic03 wrote:2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?

Impossible. For the Top 5 selections, Career Services only gives firms the names of people who were not originally preselected at that firm. The firm never knows if the people they originally preselected put that firm in their Top 5. Career Services doesn't want to prejudice the firm against people who didn't put that firm in their Top 5.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby rayiner » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:20 am

The average was 9?!

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby Cavalier » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:28 am

rayiner wrote:The average was 9?!

According to an email we got from career services, yes.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby vanwinkle » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:39 am

There will be a few more alternates to get upgraded, since I'm declining my preselects for obvious reasons. (Not for DC, though; for some reason I got mostly alternates in DC.)

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby YCrevolution » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:49 am

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby showNprove » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:53 am

YCrevolution wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
vamedic03 wrote:I figure there are three possibilities:

1) Some firms still weren't done with their preselects

2) UVA let firms switch a Top 5 preselect with a regular preselect (i.e., maybe firm x selected student A as a preselect, but then found out that student A put them in their Top 5, so they used student A as a Top5 preselect)?

3) When you decline an interview, its irreversible

4) Somebody messed something up. <= Strong contender.

Truth. There was a one-hour period on Friday where you could sign yourself up for a specific interview slot, even if you didn't bid on the firm (much less get preselected or alternate selection).

What?? Were we notified of this?

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby YCrevolution » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:57 am

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby showNprove » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:01 am

YCrevolution wrote:
showNprove wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:Truth. There was a one-hour period on Friday where you could sign yourself up for a specific interview slot, even if you didn't bid on the firm (much less get preselected or alternate selection).

What?? Were we notified of this?

No, it went away after an hour or so (I just happened to be logged in at the right/wrong time). In the column for interview date, the dates turned into clickable buttons (and appeared to feature multiple rooms if a firm had them) and listed the appropriate 20-30 minute time slots for interviews with radio button selection (and a submit button).

Needless to say, I did not sign myself up for interviews.

Oh, I gotchya. I thought you meant firms with open slots (e.g., didn't get enough bids) were being offered.

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby vamedic03 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:
RVP11 wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:
RVP11 wrote:Ignorant 0Ls who fawn over "UVA's placement in DC," please take note of this thread.

I should probably know this - do alternates count toward the max of 30?

CS says no, but that if you get off the alternate list, they'll fix it so that you get your top 30 firms.


Other question: if you accept an alternate spot, are you taken out of the lottery for that firm?


Kevin Donovan is great, but I fault him for mentioning alternates and the lottery so often near one another. Alternates are automatic: as soon as people have declined their pre-selects, the alternate list slots interviews where possible. Once that process is done and finished, the lottery is run. So if you fail to get an alternate, you'll be in the lottery (and obviously if you get an alternate you will not be).

I'm very encouraged by his most recent email. An average of 9 pre-selects is stellar, and quite a bit better than last year. After alternates, the lottery, etc. I think people will be sitting on many more interviews than in the past.



I think this post answers our questions about alternates turning into preselects right now... I think its worth adding that if you don't get the interview as an alternate, you are still in the lottery for that particular firm - so, you might still have a good shot of getting an interview + that firm has shown interest in you

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Re: UVA Bid Results

Postby green » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:34 pm

I hope no one's preselects have turned into alternates....




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