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Re: School OCI Data

Postby 98234872348 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:47 pm

skoobily doobily wrote:Meh, I wasn't trying to pick on you or be offensive or anything, sorry about coming across like that. I'm just a little annoyed at how many posters are jumping on the "speculate from ignorance, articulate as fact" bandwagon right now.

You do realize that 90% of the posts made on tls share this quality, right?

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Re: School OCI Data

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Re: School OCI Data

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

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holydonkey wrote:For those of us who don't want to look through this thread and like to compare/contrast, keeping in mind class sizes vary, some #s may include multiple rounds of OCI, etc etc, thus far:

CLS - 138 unique employers

NYU - 137 unique employers and 450 offices/employers overall

Boalt - 233 interviewers (including multiple offices) and around 132 unique employers, 20 of which are government or PI. ~140 distinct employers. Some of the employers with single entries are interviewing for "firm-wide" or "nation-wide" positions so who knows how many offices we're talking about. (Giving a conservative "5" offices to those, it somes to 523 offices). Probably a more important metric is 4941 2L interview slots (>16 slots per 2L if our class size goes up by 10 counting transfers and 100% participate). These numbers do not include quite a few resume-collection listings.

PENN -128 uniques. 242 offices

Michigan - There are officially 160 firms participating, and they are interviewing for a total of about 425 office locations (a lot of firms are interviewing for multiple offices). There are also maybe 50-60 firms right now that are not coming to OCI but that are collecting resumes from interested students.

UVA - 177 unique employers coming to campus, interviewing for 573 offices.

Duke - 122 individual employers (2 overlaps between round 1 and 2 that I could see). There are about 110 firms, and then some PI and gov't. I counted about 365 offices (including multiple offices)

NU – 155 employers.-4 government employers.- 33 multi-office listings.= 118 unique law firm employers. doesn't include the unique firms at regional recruitment

Cornell - 220-250 interviewers (including multiple offices). Cornell has ~118 individual employers which includes a handful or two of government/PI entities

Georgetown - 467 offices. Non-IP firms = about 110 individual employers. A few firms have been added or removed since then, and some have removed or added just an office or two, but that number is about right. There are 72 lines/offices represented for IP. I haven't counted the number of individual employers there are, but I'm guessing around 20-25.

Texas - 92 unique firms [plus 45 resume collects]. 277 firm offices [plus 105 resume collects]. 69 non-firm offices [53 of which are our friends at the IRS]

UCLA - 163 employers participating at the moment (didnt feel like counting the total offices), about 15-20 seem to just be resume collection.

Vandy - 82 unique employers

WUSTL - at about 85, not including off-camus programs. Round 1 - 66 law firms with ~20 of them being resume collects. The next round has 22 firms with ~10 resume collects. There are 2 more rounds to go. Firms participating in off-campus interviewing programs are not included. I don't think there has been any government/PI jobs included in the OCI so far

GW - ~121 unique employers at OCI (some do have the multiple bid options, but theres only like two firms with more than 5 or so--if you add the regional programs, its closer to 130-40 unique employers). Many bid options include a footnote with something like "no multiple interviews" which means that the OCI interviewer represents multiple offices. Oh, and yes, theres over 30 interview slots that are for "science/technical degrees" only.

Illinois - 40 unique employers on campus. 6 more at an off-campus interview program in Indy. 21 resume collects

Emory - 27 law firms coming to OCI, then another ~10 in its NY program, 1 in DC, and various resume collects.

ND - 39 firms coming to interview. 79 employment opportunities

IU – B - around the same as ND.

Wisconsin - 49 employers at OCI this fall (30 in phase one), plus a handful of firms "collecting resumes".

Fordham - 125 distinct employers coming, just in our first week. Nearly all are large firms. Counting interview opportunities for separate offices, and the handful asking for patent bar eligible students only, that number climbs to 202+

George Mason University - 38 total employers + 40 Resume collect

Hastings - 92 unique employers coming on campus.

UF - 32 unique employers coming to campus, 43 counting resume collects for EIW

Tulane - 36 employers at through round one. around 50-60 opportunities for on-campus recruiting total

Pepperdine – About 110 Unique Employers. About 200 other employers doing resume collects.

Case Western: 15 round early interview week. ~7 total for the next 2-3 rounds.

Loyola (Los Angeles) - has exactly 101 entries for Phases I and II (88 and 17). Some of these are resume forwards.

Houston - 90 employers (roughly 80 unique and a few with multiple locations)

University of Kentucky - 35 at OCI, of which 30 are firms. This does not include multiple locations, and many of the firms are hiring for at least 2-4 locations. This also does not include resume collections.

St. John's- 28 firms coming for OCI this year

Catholic - 22 OCI; 21 Resume Collect; 11 New Hampshire Interview Program; 6 Boston Interview Program

Southwestern - has 8 entries for Phase I.

Suffolk - 32 employers at the OCIs, plus 2 fellowship programs. 11 at off campus recruiting. 6 doing resume collection. 13 in SEND DIRECT. 4 through the Massachusetts Law School Consortium's National Recruitment Program.

Toledo College of Law - 11 accepting apps; 2 attending OCI

UCI - in the 30's. 40's if you count resume collection
Edited to add new info. Help fill in the blanks if you can!


really? 100+ for pepperdine? 90 for houston which is about the same as UT???

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:12 pm

CLS - 138 unique employers

NYU - 137 unique employers and 450 offices/employers overall

Boalt - 233 interviewers (including multiple offices) and around 132 unique employers, 20 of which are government or PI. ~140 distinct employers. Some of the employers with single entries are interviewing for "firm-wide" or "nation-wide" positions so who knows how many offices we're talking about. (Giving a conservative "5" offices to those, it somes to 523 offices). Probably a more important metric is 4941 2L interview slots (>16 slots per 2L if our class size goes up by 10 counting transfers and 100% participate). These numbers do not include quite a few resume-collection listings.

PENN -128 uniques. 242 offices

Michigan - There are officially 160 firms participating, and they are interviewing for a total of about 425 office locations (a lot of firms are interviewing for multiple offices). There are also maybe 50-60 firms right now that are not coming to OCI but that are collecting resumes from interested students.

UVA - 177 unique employers coming to campus, interviewing for 573 offices.

Duke - 122 individual employers (2 overlaps between round 1 and 2 that I could see). There are about 110 firms, and then some PI and gov't. I counted about 365 offices (including multiple offices)

NU – 155 employers.-4 government employers.- 33 multi-office listings.= 118 unique law firm employers. doesn't include the unique firms at regional recruitment

Cornell - 220-250 interviewers (including multiple offices). Cornell has ~118 individual employers which includes a handful or two of government/PI entities

Georgetown - 467 offices. Non-IP firms = about 110 individual employers. A few firms have been added or removed since then, and some have removed or added just an office or two, but that number is about right. There are 72 lines/offices represented for IP. I haven't counted the number of individual employers there are, but I'm guessing around 20-25.

Texas - 92 unique firms [plus 45 resume collects]. 277 firm offices [plus 105 resume collects]. 69 non-firm offices [53 of which are our friends at the IRS]

UCLA - 163 employers participating at the moment (didnt feel like counting the total offices), about 15-20 seem to just be resume collection.

Vandy - 82 unique employers

WUSTL - at about 85, not including off-camus programs. Round 1 - 66 law firms with ~20 of them being resume collects. The next round has 22 firms with ~10 resume collects. There are 2 more rounds to go. Firms participating in off-campus interviewing programs are not included. I don't think there has been any government/PI jobs included in the OCI so far

GW - ~121 unique employers at OCI (some do have the multiple bid options, but theres only like two firms with more than 5 or so--if you add the regional programs, its closer to 130-40 unique employers). Many bid options include a footnote with something like "no multiple interviews" which means that the OCI interviewer represents multiple offices. Oh, and yes, theres over 30 interview slots that are for "science/technical degrees" only.

Illinois - 40 unique employers on campus. 6 more at an off-campus interview program in Indy. 21 resume collects

Emory - 27 law firms coming to OCI, then another ~10 in its NY program, 1 in DC, and various resume collects.

ND - 39 firms coming to interview. 79 employment opportunities

IU – B - around the same as ND.

Wisconsin - 49 employers at OCI this fall (30 in phase one), plus a handful of firms "collecting resumes".

Fordham - 125 distinct employers coming, just in our first week. Nearly all are large firms. Counting interview opportunities for separate offices, and the handful asking for patent bar eligible students only, that number climbs to 202+

George Mason University - 38 total employers + 40 Resume collect

Hastings - 92 unique employers coming on campus.

UF - 32 unique employers coming to campus, 43 counting resume collects for EIW

Tulane - 36 employers at through round one. around 50-60 opportunities for on-campus recruiting total

Pepperdine – About 110 Unique Employers. About 200 other employers doing resume collects.

Case Western: 15 round early interview week. ~7 total for the next 2-3 rounds.

Loyola (Los Angeles) - has exactly 101 entries for Phases I and II (88 and 17). Some of these are resume forwards.

Houston - 90 employers (roughly 80 unique and a few with multiple locations)

University of Kentucky - 35 at OCI, of which 30 are firms. This does not include multiple locations, and many of the firms are hiring for at least 2-4 locations. This also does not include resume collections.

St. John's- 28 firms coming for OCI this year

Catholic - 22 OCI; 21 Resume Collect; 11 New Hampshire Interview Program; 6 Boston Interview Program

Southwestern - has 8 entries for Phase I.

Suffolk - 32 employers at the OCIs, plus 2 fellowship programs. 11 at off campus recruiting. 6 doing resume collection. 13 in SEND DIRECT. 4 through the Massachusetts Law School Consortium's National Recruitment Program.

Toledo College of Law - 11 accepting apps; 2 attending OCI

UCI - in the 30's. 40's if you count resume collection
This info is dangerous.

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby stratocophic » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:47 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
NUMBERS
This info is dangerous.
Think of it as a culling.

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:21 pm

stratocophic wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
NUMBERS
This info is dangerous.
Think of it as a culling.

My worry is quite the opposite. People will look at those numbers and think there is a certain equivalency in the T50.

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby wiseowl » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:20 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
NUMBERS
This info is dangerous.
Think of it as a culling.

My worry is quite the opposite. People will look at those numbers and think there is a certain equivalency in the T50.


Correct. This data is exactly what the OCS in the lower T1 wants you to see. Comes from the same home office as "99% Employment" and "100k median salary".

When you have an alum from one market-paying firm who's there with gritted teeth out of obligation and 95 "Jim-Bob's Pulled Pork and Personal Injury Emporiums" then the data is meaningless.

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:54 pm

wiseowl wrote:When you have an alum from one market-paying firm who's there with gritted teeth out of obligation and 95 "Jim-Bob's Pulled Pork and Personal Injury Emporiums" then the data is meaningless.



I can't emphasize how true this is. I transferred from a T2 to T20. At the T2, there were about 30-40 unique employers. HOWEVER, like 15 of them were market or near-market paying firms (not even biglaw and/or vault firms...most were small shops and/or local government). Moreover, the school was in a large secondary market and there is no way that every one of those firms took at least one person (for a school of like 250, that meant just a handful, literally a handful, probably got jobs out of it). At the T20, there were over 100 employers. Almost all were biglaw (with a smattering of jag, etc...but not much).

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Re: Only 39 law firms coming to OCI?!?

Postby stratocophic » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:52 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
NUMBERS
This info is dangerous.
Think of it as a culling.

My worry is quite the opposite. People will look at those numbers and think there is a certain equivalency in the T50.
Exactly my point - culling. Seriously though, someone should put a disclaimer on this to keep people from thinking things like Houston = UT. Something like "see generally the USNWR rankings for job prospects, but be very afraid of the schools with low numbers on this list."

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Re: School OCI Data

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:47 pm

new way of misrepresenting OCI data..
PAY get solo practice firms to come and do OCI!
Cooley law can boost that OCI number up to michshitgan law.

edit... prob shouldnt be anonymous... my apologies.



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