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miamiman
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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby miamiman » Fri May 07, 2010 1:33 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
miamiman wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:1)NU
2)sticker
3)Patent Law, I'm an EE

My hubris will be my downfall.




DF, GTFO. I've told you now at least 3 times you are biglaw SECURE. You're shaking my faith in you.


The problem is I believe it.


That your hubris will be your downfall or that you are biglaw secure?

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby 09042014 » Fri May 07, 2010 1:34 pm

miamiman wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
miamiman wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:1)NU
2)sticker
3)Patent Law, I'm an EE

My hubris will be my downfall.




DF, GTFO. I've told you now at least 3 times you are biglaw SECURE. You're shaking my faith in you.


The problem is I believe it.


That your hubris will be your downfall or that you are biglaw secure?


Big Law Secure, which is why I say I have hubris.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby najumobi » Fri May 07, 2010 1:38 pm

miamiman wrote:Im not playing Zoltan, boys and girls. Call your local career services for Forecast Fridays.
ha

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby mnewboldc » Wed May 12, 2010 6:02 pm

Remember, folks, if T10 gets you a 50% chance at biglaw, you're probably better served taking your law school tuition $$'s to a Vegas roulette wheel and throwing it all on red/black. There, your fortunes will be decided in a matter of seconds and even if you lose everything, you won't forego 3 years of income and the experience you'll gain from building a career in another field.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby najumobi » Wed May 12, 2010 6:14 pm

mnewboldc wrote:Remember, folks, if T10 gets you a 50% chance at biglaw, you're probably better served taking your law school tuition $$'s to a Vegas roulette wheel and throwing it all on red/black. There, your fortunes will be decided in a matter of seconds and even if you lose everything, you won't forego 3 years of income and the experience you'll gain from building a career in another field.
even if one doesn't get big law, they dont end up with nothing. they can start a career at 40k/50k with the potential of increased salary after years of experience. if you lose your tuition money playing roulette you're way more screwed. i know one could fall back on their undergrad degrees but most potential lawyers have liberal arts degree which usually get those who possess them jobs starting out at 20k/30k.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby Matthies » Wed May 12, 2010 6:21 pm

miamiman wrote:Matthies,

we have our disagreements -- and Id like to think we maintain them with civility -- but I tend to agree with disco on this one. Your comments and advice in the area of networking are dead-on but I don't think we're seeing a major paradigm shift as it relates to Biglaw. Firms have cut back considerably (just as they hired overzealously in the build-up) but I do think given what I've read on ATL (i.e. salary true-ups, positive signs leading into OCI, etc.) suggest that the horrors we saw this past year were more the symptoms of a bad economy than the signs of a sea change.

I might be wrong and I will admit as much if your forecasts prove more predictive. Until then, I'm placing my faith in the Cravath model.


Wait ATL says its dead so NOW IT HAS TO BE TRUZE!!!! :P

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/could-le ... he-future/

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby Stringer Bell » Wed May 12, 2010 6:22 pm

mnewboldc wrote:Remember, folks, if T10 gets you a 50% chance at biglaw, you're probably better served taking your law school tuition $$'s to a Vegas roulette wheel and throwing it all on red/black. There, your fortunes will be decided in a matter of seconds and even if you lose everything, you won't forego 3 years of income and the experience you'll gain from building a career in another field.


Except that the government won't spot you 200k to play roulette with the option that if you lose you can work for them and pay 15% of your paycheck for 10 years and call it even.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby GATORTIM » Wed May 12, 2010 6:22 pm

mnewboldc wrote: building a career in another field.


I love how you presume that while legal field sucks others are just fkn rosey. The majority of jobs for BA/BS grads are completely bullshit with extremely limited opportunity for "development/growth"

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby Anonymous User » Sun May 16, 2010 9:56 pm

pfft, good thing I got a $500k portfolio and a $500k house paid for.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby tbo123123 » Sun May 16, 2010 9:59 pm

https://law-northwestern-csm.symplicity ... a3c4ab0b2d

I'm gonna be hanging pretty in the 3.9+ range if a dominate this term

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby Borhas » Sun May 16, 2010 10:15 pm

Matthies wrote:
miamiman wrote:Matthies,

we have our disagreements -- and Id like to think we maintain them with civility -- but I tend to agree with disco on this one. Your comments and advice in the area of networking are dead-on but I don't think we're seeing a major paradigm shift as it relates to Biglaw. Firms have cut back considerably (just as they hired overzealously in the build-up) but I do think given what I've read on ATL (i.e. salary true-ups, positive signs leading into OCI, etc.) suggest that the horrors we saw this past year were more the symptoms of a bad economy than the signs of a sea change.

I might be wrong and I will admit as much if your forecasts prove more predictive. Until then, I'm placing my faith in the Cravath model.


Wait ATL says its dead so NOW IT HAS TO BE TRUZE!!!! :P

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/could-le ... he-future/


If the current (or past) model is getting dropped doesn't that mean that the huge unemployment is a short term issue, but that depressed big law salaries are the long term issue?

I don't give two shits about big law salaries, but unemployment is obviously another matter. But, even if corporations aren't willing to pay for high priced noobs, and if firms won't pay out the same amount of salary there is still about the same amount of work for about the same number of lawyers.

Just want to make sure that we aren't confusing the disappearance of BigLaw starting salaries with the disappearance of law jobs in general

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby 09042014 » Sun May 16, 2010 11:28 pm

tbo123123 wrote:https://law-northwestern-csm.symplicity.com/files/a56/a564809bccb1f951f517ac97870ec656.pdf?i=7ae2c29f6b3663f69579b6a3c4ab0b2d

I'm gonna be hanging pretty in the 3.9+ range if a dominate this term


Got one of those for OCI 2009?

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby thesealocust » Sun May 16, 2010 11:37 pm

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon May 17, 2010 8:12 am

miamiman wrote:Im not playing Zoltan, boys and girls. Call your local career services for Forecast Fridays.



I love Zoltan.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby awesomepossum » Mon May 17, 2010 8:14 am

Crap. I hate the anonymous quote feature. I always press it by accident.

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby fortissimo » Wed May 19, 2010 5:03 am

thesealocust wrote:
tbo123123 wrote:https://law-northwestern-csm.symplicity.com/files/a56/a564809bccb1f951f517ac97870ec656.pdf?i=7ae2c29f6b3663f69579b6a3c4ab0b2d

I'm gonna be hanging pretty in the 3.9+ range if a dominate this term


Over/under on the number of your posts on TLS that are about your tiny pink 3.9+?

-.-


Isn't a 3.9 at NU median, considering the grade curve?

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby taw856 » Wed May 19, 2010 5:42 am

awesomepossum wrote:Crap. I hate the anonymous quote feature. I always press it by accident.


I'd be ashamed of Michigan, too. :wink:

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby sanpiero » Mon May 31, 2010 2:33 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
tbo123123 wrote:https://law-northwestern-csm.symplicity.com/files/a56/a564809bccb1f951f517ac97870ec656.pdf?i=7ae2c29f6b3663f69579b6a3c4ab0b2d

I'm gonna be hanging pretty in the 3.9+ range if a dominate this term


Got one of those for OCI 2009?


+1

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Re: Northwestern Law Grad Can't find a job...

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon May 31, 2010 2:46 pm

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