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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
Romo, no need to killself. As I explained previously, you're T20 secure. Had you told me you were going to UIUC, I would have advised immolation.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
So T4 is not valid?showNprove wrote:T1, T3, T5, T6, T10, T12, T13, T14, T17, T18
All valid cutoff points, but usage depends on the intent of the troll.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
Lets agree to disagree....I will remind you of this statement when i get my IL summer PAID internship. $3200/WEEK...oh and i would be in much less debt.Desert Fox wrote:You are vastly overemphasizing the importance of WE in legal hiring.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
The NU student will have a MUCH easier time finding a job.
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Damn, for once, you beat me to it. I was going to advise seppuku, but immolation is equally credited.miamiman wrote:Romo, no need to killself. As I explained previously, you're T20 secure. Had you told me you were going to UIUC, I would have advised immolation.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
lol. I've recruited for attorney positions at the state and federal levels. Work experience wins almost always. that's just state and federal thoughitsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
So are you saying that WUSTL + WE = NU + WE? If so I think you are nuts, and if not I don't understand your point.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
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I had to look up seppuku. Sounds better than going to law school outside the T10.AngryAvocado wrote:Damn, for once, you beat me to it. I was going to advise seppuku, but immolation is equally credited.miamiman wrote:Romo, no need to killself. As I explained previously, you're T20 secure. Had you told me you were going to UIUC, I would have advised immolation.
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No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWEStringer Bell wrote:So are you saying that WUSTL + WE = NU + WE? If so I think you are nuts, and if not I don't understand your point.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
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itsmytime10 wrote:No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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AngryAvocado wrote:Damn, for once, you beat me to it. I was going to advise seppuku, but immolation is equally credited.miamiman wrote:Romo, no need to killself. As I explained previously, you're T20 secure. Had you told me you were going to UIUC, I would have advised immolation.
AA, I couldn't for the life of me stand idle anymore and let you steal my thunder. It was my time to shine and I took it . And I'm a better person for it.
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The problem is that people with work experience cost more. These days it seems harder for people who have lost their jobs even with "solid WE" than for brand new associates.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
Can we not mention my future LS in this discussion? I'm already going through an agonizing period of self-loathing and self-questioning without you people making it worse.itsmytime10 wrote:No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWEStringer Bell wrote:So are you saying that WUSTL + WE = NU + WE? If so I think you are nuts, and if not I don't understand your point.itsmytime10 wrote:
True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WE
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I think he meant fresh law school grads, the WUSTL student having pre law WE.awesomepossum wrote:The problem is that people with work experience cost more. These days it seems harder for people who have lost their jobs even with "solid WE" than for brand new associates.itsmytime10 wrote:
True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WE
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
You are talking about people with solid WE who have lost their jobs.....that is totally different.awesomepossum wrote:The problem is that people with work experience cost more. These days it seems harder for people who have lost their jobs even with "solid WE" than for brand new associates.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote:NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.itsmytime10 wrote:You are paying sticker at NU because attending a T14 obviously will increase your chances of getting bigLaw right? I believe an excellent resume from a T30 student gives them this extra push as well....Believe it or not firms favor law students with good WE, and that is the main reason why NU places so well.
My point is that a T14 at sticker is not always a better deal than a T25 with $$. It depends on ur profile.
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right. It's also somewhat irrelevant since I think like 95% of NU's entering class has worked for at least one year. But either way, your initial statement suggested that DF's reasoning that an article like this makes him feel better about his decision to pay sticker at NU vs. taking money from a t30 would be flawed for someone with WE. That really wouldn't make sense unless WUSTL+WE = automatic biglaw or WUSTL + WE = NU + WE, both of which are unlikely to be true. Also, this article suggested firms would stop going to some schools period. If they don't go to a school's campus to interview, the person at a campus that they do go to is going to have a better shot at working for that firm. That doesn't seem like a stretch at all.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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Fixed.itsmytime10 wrote:My point is that a T14 at sticker is not always a better deal than a T25 with $$. It depends on[strike]ur profile[/strike] goals.
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Here is another problem with Law Students esp those with 0 years of WE. OCI is not the only way to get into a firm. If a firm isn't coming to my school it doesn't mean i can't get my resume in front of the hiring manager.Stringer Bell wrote:I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right. It's also somewhat irrelevant since I think like 95% of NU's entering class has worked for at least one year. But either way, your initial statement suggested that DF's reasoning that an article like this makes him feel better about his decision to pay sticker at NU vs. taking money from a t30 would be flawed for someone with WE. That really wouldn't make sense unless WUSTL+WE = automatic biglaw or WUSTL + WE = NU + WE, both of which are unlikely to be true. Also, this article suggested firms would stop going to some schools period. If they don't go to a school's campus to interview, the person at a campus that they do go to is going to have a better shot at working for that firm. That doesn't seem like a stretch at all.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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Re: V25 hiring director: non-T20 hiring to decline permanently
RC fail. Stringer didn't say it was impossible to get a job outside of OCI. He said it was harder. If you're going to argue with that, then you have gone off the deep end.itsmytime10 wrote:Here is another problem with Law Students esp those with 0 years of WE. OCI is not the only way to get into a firm. If a firm isn't coming to my school it doesn't mean i can't get my resume in front of the hiring manager.Stringer Bell wrote:I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right. It's also somewhat irrelevant since I think like 95% of NU's entering class has worked for at least one year. But either way, your initial statement suggested that DF's reasoning that an article like this makes him feel better about his decision to pay sticker at NU vs. taking money from a t30 would be flawed for someone with WE. That really wouldn't make sense unless WUSTL+WE = automatic biglaw or WUSTL + WE = NU + WE, both of which are unlikely to be true. Also, this article suggested firms would stop going to some schools period. If they don't go to a school's campus to interview, the person at a campus that they do go to is going to have a better shot at working for that firm. That doesn't seem like a stretch at all.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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Yes, you are better for it. We are all better for it.miamiman wrote:AngryAvocado wrote:Damn, for once, you beat me to it. I was going to advise seppuku, but immolation is equally credited.miamiman wrote:Romo, no need to killself. As I explained previously, you're T20 secure. Had you told me you were going to UIUC, I would have advised immolation.
AA, I couldn't for the life of me stand idle anymore and let you steal my thunder. It was my time to shine and I took it . And I'm a better person for it.
Now, for those of you who have not been deemed BigLaw or T20 Secure (redundant since those two things are now synonymous), please go ahead and
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My apologies. I wasn't trying to say stringer was wrong...just saying that seems to be a common theme on this board. OCI was hit badly = students can't find jobs.romothesavior wrote:RC fail. Stringer didn't say it was impossible to get a job outside of OCI. He said it was harder. If you're going to argue with that, then you have gone off the deep end.itsmytime10 wrote:Here is another problem with Law Students esp those with 0 years of WE. OCI is not the only way to get into a firm. If a firm isn't coming to my school it doesn't mean i can't get my resume in front of the hiring manager.Stringer Bell wrote:I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right. It's also somewhat irrelevant since I think like 95% of NU's entering class has worked for at least one year. But either way, your initial statement suggested that DF's reasoning that an article like this makes him feel better about his decision to pay sticker at NU vs. taking money from a t30 would be flawed for someone with WE. That really wouldn't make sense unless WUSTL+WE = automatic biglaw or WUSTL + WE = NU + WE, both of which are unlikely to be true. Also, this article suggested firms would stop going to some schools period. If they don't go to a school's campus to interview, the person at a campus that they do go to is going to have a better shot at working for that firm. That doesn't seem like a stretch at all.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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Odds are you aren't even getting a 2L SA.itsmytime10 wrote:Lets agree to disagree....I will remind you of this statement when i get my IL summer PAID internship. $3200/WEEK...oh and i would be in much less debt.Desert Fox wrote:You are vastly overemphasizing the importance of WE in legal hiring.itsmytime10 wrote:True...but i highly doubt that a NU student with 0 years of WE, will do better in finding a job than say..a WashU student with 4 years of solid WEvanwinkle wrote: NU places well because its students have good WE and are attending a T10. You're kind of skipping over one part while focusing too much on the other.
The NU student will have a MUCH easier time finding a job.
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He is not right.Stringer Bell wrote:I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
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Desert Fox wrote:He is not right.Stringer Bell wrote:I'm not taking a position one way or another on that, but you may be right.itsmytime10 wrote:
No i am saying WUSTL +5yrsWE > NU + OyrsWE
No, no he isn't
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Lets agree to disagree....I will remind you of this statement when i get my IL summer PAID internship. $3200/WEEK...oh and i would be in much less debt.[/quote]
Odds are you aren't even getting a 2L SA.[/quote]
that will be just fine as well...i don't owe anyone 200k
Odds are you aren't even getting a 2L SA.[/quote]
that will be just fine as well...i don't owe anyone 200k
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DF is my TLS hero.
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