clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

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clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:25 pm

well - its official no LR for me

what else can i do to get a great clerkship? are grades all that matter or can rec's really help you?
and what is the "min" gpa i would need for a decent clerkship

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:well - its official no LR for me

what else can i do to get a great clerkship? are grades all that matter or can rec's really help you?
and what is the "min" gpa i would need for a decent clerkship

Dude... school, level of clerkship that = decent, city/region, GPA, curve, etc...

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Rand M. » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:00 pm

FlightoftheEarls wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:well - its official no LR for me

what else can i do to get a great clerkship? are grades all that matter or can rec's really help you?
and what is the "min" gpa i would need for a decent clerkship

Dude... school, level of clerkship that = decent, city/region, GPA, curve, etc...


Seriously, this is one of the most vaguely worded posts I have ever read. There is just no way to answer this in any accurate way.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:07 pm

top 3 school
would like to clerk in new york, new jersey or ct.
federal but district ok.

i really know nothing about this - sorry so vague

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby swester » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:top 3 school
would like to clerk in new york, new jersey or ct.
federal but district ok.

i really know nothing about this - sorry so vague


Yeah, sure sounds like you're at a top 3 school. Those kids at HYS really come into it knowing absolutely nothing about silly things like clerkships.

Don't you mean Tier 3 school?

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby GeePee » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:20 pm

swester wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:top 3 school
would like to clerk in new york, new jersey or ct.
federal but district ok.

i really know nothing about this - sorry so vague


Yeah, sure sounds like you're at a top 3 school. Those kids at HYS really come into it knowing absolutely nothing about silly things like clerkships.

Don't you mean Tier 3 school?

Also, unless he's an HLS 3L, no one at HYS has a GPA. And, since he's just considering getting onto LR I think we can safely establish this as a:

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby 270910 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:43 pm

I think CLS might have just released journal info, could be that?

Otherwise I can't even imagine how you'd know whether or not you made LR at this point...

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:53 pm

Y or S it doesn't matter -- no grades for law review and relevant actors would know that. Work on another journal so you can demonstrate blue booking skills and be glad you don't have to slog through law review :D

Recommendations are far more important at these schools than law review would be. Grades will count too for some judges (LPs look bad, HPs are good). Write so you will have a well polished sample, and work on grades and recommendations. Law review shouldn't be a factor.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby 270910 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote: Law review shouldn't be a factor.


Law review is still a factor, especially for CoA judges.

Even at lower T14 schools the majority of d. court clerkships go to non-LR people though, so it's hardly a fatal blow. Top quarter grades at a lower T14 or... I don't know what at HYS are enough to land in a d. court w/o LR. Journal work still very much a plus, likely mandatory for some judges.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:33 am

Did someone just say Law Review isn't a factor? For clerkships?!


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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:35 am

Top 1-2%, T6. No law review (transfer). Editor on a secondary journal. I'm told I "might be able to get a district court clerkship in a secondary market."

But yeah, LR is no biggie.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Tofu » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:Top 1-2%, T6. No law review (transfer). Editor on a secondary journal. I'm told I "might be able to get a district court clerkship in a secondary market."

But yeah, LR is no biggie.


top 1-2% and "in a secondary market"?

whaaaat?

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:02 am

Tofu wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 1-2%, T6. No law review (transfer). Editor on a secondary journal. I'm told I "might be able to get a district court clerkship in a secondary market."

But yeah, LR is no biggie.


top 1-2% and "in a secondary market"?

whaaaat?


No LR: It's a big deal.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:41 am

Anonymous User wrote:Top 1-2%, T6. No law review (transfer). Editor on a secondary journal. I'm told I "might be able to get a district court clerkship in a secondary market."

But yeah, LR is no biggie.


I think you're getting bad advice. I also go to a T6. Every year, students at my school who have stellar grades but aren't on LR nevertheless get great clerkships -- sometimes even with famous COA judges (Diane Wood, Harry Pregerson, William Fletcher, Marsha Berzon, etc.).

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:04 am

ToTransferOrNot wrote:Did someone just say Law Review isn't a factor? For clerkships?!


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Someone just said that Law Review isn't usually a factor for a YALE or STANFORD person. (With reasons that are particular to those schools.)

OP would be much better off asking his/her classmates than TLS on this one.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:23 pm

sorry to hijack, but this thread is hopeless up to this point anyway. just curious what yall think of my chances at edny or sdny.

at HLS
no lr. article editor at another journal.
40 H credits, 11 P; 1 DS.

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Postby 270910 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:sorry to hijack, but this thread is hopeless up to this point anyway. just curious what yall think of my chances at edny or sdny.

at HLS
no lr. article editor at another journal.
40 H credits, 11 P; 1 DS.


1) HLS just started its new new-age hippie shit grading scheme, so nobody really knows what it means outside of HLS

2) Clerkships in general are extraordinarily person, school, and professor recommendations.

3) The above lack of knowledge goes double when you narrow the questionn to specific regioons / courts.

That being said, since less than half of every class gets an H and you have many more than 50% H 'grades', I would imagine you are in good shape to pick up a district court clerkship. It's impossible for the TLS community to be more helpful than your profs / career services though in such a specific inquiry.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby vanwinkle » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:04 pm

00TREX00 wrote:
Top 1-2%, T6. No law review (transfer). Editor on a secondary journal. I'm told I "might be able to get a district court clerkship in a secondary market."

But yeah, LR is no biggie.

Retarded and blatantly false.

Retarded and blatantly false.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby BradyToMoss » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:57 am

Top 1-2%, a 2L, and a transfer? Are you guessing that the one semester of grades you have places in the top 1-2%, or are you giving us your rank at the school from which you transferred?

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:38 am

Anonymous User wrote:sorry to hijack, but this thread is hopeless up to this point anyway. just curious what yall think of my chances at edny or sdny.

at HLS
no lr. article editor at another journal.
40 H credits, 11 P; 1 DS.


Can you give me a sense of where that puts you in the class (percentage-wise)? My guess is that you are well-situated for a district clerkship, but I'm not sure about SDNY/EDNY unless you have a specific faculty connection. Those courts usually take top 10-15% and seriously prefer LR, even from Harvard.

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Re: clerkships - No LR, what kind of GPA do you need?

Postby underdawg » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:45 am

BradyToMoss wrote:Top 1-2%, a 2L, and a transfer? Are you guessing that the one semester of grades you have places in the top 1-2%, or are you giving us your rank at the school from which you transferred?




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