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latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby truthypants » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:13 pm

-Most students don't get their jobs through fall recruiting (OCI, resume collections, off-campus programs)
-Largest firms (700+) median number of offers dropped from 30 in 2007 to 18.5 in 2008 to 8 in 2009
-In Fall 2009, only 36.4% of callback interviews resulted in an offer. (2008: 46.6%; 2007: 60%+)
-Only 3% of firms recruited for 3L students in 2009 (2008: 25%; 2007 42%)


that's the lates OCI stats from George Mason (ranked 42). I imagine lower ranked schools have worse prospects and higher ranked schools have better prospects. Hope it helps. Feel free to post other schools employment stats here--i'm curious to see how other schools are faring.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby 270910 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:42 pm

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby zeth006 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:04 am

^ This



Doesn't look good, that I can tell you!

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby XxSpyKEx » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:54 am

truthypants wrote:-Most students don't get their jobs through fall recruiting (OCI, resume collections, off-campus programs)
-Largest firms (700+) median number of offers dropped from 30 in 2007 to 18.5 in 2008 to 8 in 2009
-In Fall 2009, only 36.4% of callback interviews resulted in an offer. (2008: 46.6%; 2007: 60%+)
-Only 3% of firms recruited for 3L students in 2009 (2008: 25%; 2007 42%)


that's the lates OCI stats from George Mason (ranked 42). I imagine lower ranked schools have worse prospects and higher ranked schools have better prospects. Hope it helps. Feel free to post other schools employment stats here--i'm curious to see how other schools are faring.


Typically schools won't post up stats in bad years like this because they want to avoid stuff like what % of their students actually got offers from firms showing up on message boards and abovethelaw essentially trashing the school, when the reality is that is just as bad at comparable schools.

Those 3L recruiting numbers are shocking though. Just based on this last year I was under the impression that 3L recruiting just never existed (which is obviously not true if almost half the firms were recruiting in 2007 OCI).

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby bwv812 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:42 pm

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby doinmybest » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:21 am

Do we have access to the latest T14 OCI stats? From what I understand they don't seem to be too far behind these stats.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby 270910 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:32 am

doinmybest wrote:Do we have access to the latest T14 OCI stats?


Nope, and who knows if we ever will. Schools have a lot of incentive to be vague here.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby rando » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:14 am

The 36% callback offers is pretty rough. I think that is the most shocking issue there.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby LurkerNoMore » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:51 am

rando wrote:The 36% callback offers is pretty rough. I think that is the most shocking issue there.


And from what I have heard, that is not likely to have translated to a 36% per person. It seems that last year it was largely feast or famine at many schools. So while 36% of all screening interviews resulted in callbacks, it may very well have been that the same small group of students got most of them.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby rando » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:00 am

LurkerNoMore wrote:
rando wrote:The 36% callback offers is pretty rough. I think that is the most shocking issue there.


And from what I have heard, that is not likely to have translated to a 36% per person. It seems that last year it was largely feast or famine at many schools. So while 36% of all screening interviews resulted in callbacks, it may very well have been that the same small group of students got most of them.


Yep.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby RVP11 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:04 am

But isn't that the percentage of callbacks becoming offers?

That seems to confirm the theory that though firms stepped up their standards on grades, the increase in selectivity based on personality/fit was even more significant.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby rando » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:11 am

RVP11 wrote:But isn't that the percentage of callbacks becoming offers?

That seems to confirm the theory that though firms stepped up their standards on grades, the increase in selectivity based on personality/fit was even more significant.


Meaning that the same people got all the offers but obviously didn't accept them all.

And yes, the selection process got markedly more competitive.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:18 am

-Largest firms (700+) median number of offers dropped from 30 in 2007 to 18.5 in 2008 to 8 in 2009



I feel sorry for the 0.5 person here. Is this person just "half" of a George Mason student, or did s/he get "half" an offer?

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:26 am

These are not George Mason's stats. Instead, they appear to be the NALP statistics reported on the NALP website for national 2L recruiting numbers.

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Re: latest OCI stats from lower tier 1

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
-Largest firms (700+) median number of offers dropped from 30 in 2007 to 18.5 in 2008 to 8 in 2009



I feel sorry for the 0.5 person here. Is this person just "half" of a George Mason student, or did s/he get "half" an offer?


lol... Only in law school.

It was just an even number of people in the sample so they averaged the 2 numbers.




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