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dreman510
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Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:59 pm

Obviously it is a niche field (more specifically-patent).
But after NYC, DC, Houston, SF, and Boston, are there any other cities with somewhat sizable patent law markets?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby sanpiero » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:05 pm

you forgot one of the biggest (chi)

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:07 pm

sanpiero wrote:you forgot one of the biggest (chi)

Yea my bad, I realized that after...
I guess I was thinking more along the lines of areas like Philly, South Florida, SoCal, Atlanta, NJ?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby sanpiero » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:11 pm

seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:04 am

sanpiero wrote:seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby Renzo » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:21 am

dreman510 wrote:
sanpiero wrote:seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?

Don't know about Seattle, but there's biotech in Denver.

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:06 am

dreman510 wrote:
sanpiero wrote:seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?


amazon, boeing, and microsoft alone should allow seattle a good deal of IP activity

denver has a number of large telecom companies

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby yeast master » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:13 am

I've heard that the Research Triangle in NC has a decent amount of IP. I can't remember the name of the firm, but I found one in the area with a bunch of bio PhD's.

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby basetommyball » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:33 am

Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:55 am

basetommyball wrote:Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.


Do you know if there's much biotech IP work in those cities?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby yeast master » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:56 am

Oops. Didn't mean to be anonymous. The last post is mine.

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:02 am

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basetommyball wrote:Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.


Do you know if there's much biotech IP work in those cities?

Is it safe to assume that any city with sizable, respectable research hospitals has some form of biotech/pharmaceuticals going on?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:07 am

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby Renzo » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 am

dreman510 wrote:Is it safe to assume that any city with sizable, respectable research hospitals has some form of biotech/pharmaceuticals going on?

No. There will be drug trials and research going on, but you want to be where the companies that commercialize such research are.
dreman510 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly..

"a lot" is too strong a qualifier to hang on one drug company. Yes, Wyeth will generate IP work, but probably enough to keep a few lawyers at one firm busy.

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby starstruck393 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:52 am

dreman510 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...


Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:01 am

starstruck393 wrote:
dreman510 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...


Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby starstruck393 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:05 am

dreman510 wrote:
starstruck393 wrote:
dreman510 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...


Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?


Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby dreman510 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:26 pm

starstruck393 wrote:
dreman510 wrote:
starstruck393 wrote:
dreman510 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...


Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?


Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

NYC at #4, behind Chi?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby starstruck393 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:36 pm

dreman510 wrote:
starstruck393 wrote:
dreman510 wrote:
starstruck393 wrote:One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?


Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

NYC at #4, behind Chi?


That's my opinion, yea. Chi seems to have a more developed IP culture going on. NYC's no slouch with IP, but I'd say the market in Chicago is bigger...

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby matrix637 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:53 pm

Which one of these areas/schools do you think offer greater job prospects for biotech patent? Houston UofH, SilVal Santa Clara or LA Loyola?

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Re: Secondary IP Markets

Postby starstruck393 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:13 pm

matrix637 wrote:Which one of these areas/schools do you think offer greater job prospects for biotech patent? Houston UofH, SilVal Santa Clara or LA Loyola?


The big question is where do you want to practice. I'd say, in an abstract, IP sense, the order is Santa Clara, UH, Loyola LA. Santa Clara probably has the best IP program out of the three, and is in the best IP market, but UH is the best overall school, and isn't bad for IP (I know a Chi biglaw partner who does biotech IP and went to UH, for instance). Loyola seems to be lacking behind. But location is big. Santa Clara would win in SilVal, UH in TX, and Loyola would most likely beat out Santa Clara in LA.

Objectively, I think the best biotech market out of those would be SilVal, but you'd also have the stiffest competition, whereas UH would give the best odds competition wise. I'd personally pick between those, based on which area you'd rather be in...




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