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what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:02 am

worst case scenario with a JD, what salary are we talking?

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby iYale » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:03 am

Nothing

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby holydonkey » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:03 am

Anonymous User wrote:worst case scenario with a JD, what salary are we talking?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wa ... ted_States

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Postby beesknees » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:16 am

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:20 am

in some places, I know salaries for first-year lawyers with no experience are drifting backwards towards the $30,000 mark. I know a couple people from my class of 09 at a t1 who are making 32 and 35.5 at two small firms. i make 50k as a first year

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby EdmundBurke23 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:23 am

Have you ever given temp attorney jobs a thought (As in the $35 or so hourly wage plus overtime charge that they usually get). But I guess the wages earned should be calculated sparingly since these jobs are nevertheless temporary. If someone could spit out a realistic calculation of how much an active temp attorney (temp attorneys who search for projects on a regular basis) makes, that would be wonderful.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby narkizopoint » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:24 am

close your eyes and what do you see?

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby dutchstriker » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:26 am

EdmundBurke23 wrote:Have you ever given temp attorney jobs a thought (As in the $35 or so hourly wage plus overtime charge that they usually get). But I guess the wages earned should be calculated sparingly since these jobs are nevertheless temporary. If someone could spit out a realistic calculation of how much an active temp attorney (temp attorneys who search for projects on a regular basis) makes, that would be wonderful.

Would you like to borrow my calculator?

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Postby Dany » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:28 am

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Postby EdmundBurke23 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:34 am

dutchstriker wrote:
EdmundBurke23 wrote:Have you ever given temp attorney jobs a thought (As in the $35 or so hourly wage plus overtime charge that they usually get). But I guess the wages earned should be calculated sparingly since these jobs are nevertheless temporary. If someone could spit out a realistic calculation of how much an active temp attorney (temp attorneys who search for projects on a regular basis) makes, that would be wonderful.

Would you like to borrow my calculator?


Well I didn't mean that I can't multiply numbers. Asians, such as myself, grew up multiplying things in our heads in order to avoid being beaten by wooden stix by ur oriental parents.

I just wanted someone knowledgeable to share with us the number of hours that an active temp attorney can secure in order to earn his hourly/over-time wages. This would require not just the total number of hours that she would be able to work, but also the number of hours that she would generally do in a given week.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby MF248 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:35 am

0, zero

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Kohinoor » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:46 am

Some firms pay 145k instead of 160k.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Zapatero » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:57 am

Depending on loans, I'd say -$500/month.

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Postby ChrisC » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:00 am

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Flanker1067 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:03 am

I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.

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Postby EdmundBurke23 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:29 am

Flanker1067 wrote:I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.


I'm wondering if foreign language doc review temps are really able to rake out $60/hour.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Kohinoor » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:34 am

Flanker1067 wrote:I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.

BAM! It's 2014 and you're fresh out of law school. You've had trouble finding a job but two offers have suddenly opened up which is a godsend since you're $180,000 in debt. You can do temp work for $20 and give up any chance of every paying off your loans or doing anything beyond scraping by OR you can do legal work for $10 and receive job training and maybe one day you hang your own shingle and make 200k a year.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby OperaSoprano » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:46 am

Kohinoor wrote:
Flanker1067 wrote:I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.

BAM! It's 2014 and you're fresh out of law school. You've had trouble finding a job but two offers have suddenly opened up which is a godsend since you're $180,000 in debt. You can do temp work for $20 and give up any chance of every paying off your loans or doing anything beyond scraping by OR you can do legal work for $10 and receive job training and maybe one day you hang your own shingle and make 200k a year.


Temping is really looked down upon, at least in this market. RM told me that his firm (the elusive midlaw) would think twice about hiring someone who had been a contract attorney. It's kind of a cruel standard IMO, because recent grads need to start chipping away at that debt somehow.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby James Bond » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:47 am

OperaSoprano wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Flanker1067 wrote:I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.

BAM! It's 2014 and you're fresh out of law school. You've had trouble finding a job but two offers have suddenly opened up which is a godsend since you're $180,000 in debt. You can do temp work for $20 and give up any chance of every paying off your loans or doing anything beyond scraping by OR you can do legal work for $10 and receive job training and maybe one day you hang your own shingle and make 200k a year.


Temping is really looked down upon, at least in this market. RM told me that his firm (the elusive midlaw) would think twice about hiring someone who had been a contract attorney. It's kind of a cruel standard IMO, because recent grads need to start chipping away at that debt somehow.


Did he say why? I mean, I can guess and all, but did he give the concrete reasons?

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:49 am

beesknees wrote:Unemployment benefits??


You don't get unemployment if you never had a job in the first place.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby ccs224 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:55 am

Nothing, minus loan payments, so around -$2000 a month or so, depending.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby Zapatero » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:58 am

ccs1702 wrote:Depending on loans, I'd say -$500/month.

ccs224 wrote:Nothing, minus loan payments, so around -$2000 a month or so, depending.



First the name, now the posts. Not cool, dude. I was a bit more conservative, though.

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Postby Renzo » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:09 am

ccs1702 wrote:
ccs1702 wrote:Depending on loans, I'd say -$500/month.

ccs224 wrote:Nothing, minus loan payments, so around -$2000 a month or so, depending.



First the name, now the posts. Not cool, dude. I was a bit more conservative, though.

Seriously? If both of you are going to stick around her for more than a few hundred posts, one of you is going to have to fix that. I'll never keep you straight.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby ccs224 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:27 am

Renzo wrote:
ccs1702 wrote:
ccs1702 wrote:Depending on loans, I'd say -$500/month.

ccs224 wrote:Nothing, minus loan payments, so around -$2000 a month or so, depending.



First the name, now the posts. Not cool, dude. I was a bit more conservative, though.

Seriously? If both of you are going to stick around her for more than a few hundred posts, one of you is going to have to fix that. I'll never keep you straight.


Just remember that I'm the one with the cute cat who is always right. The other is Mr. Bean.

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Re: what's the lowest salary one can expect with a JD?

Postby OperaSoprano » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:30 am

James Bond wrote:
OperaSoprano wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Flanker1067 wrote:I really cannot imagine anyone taking that. I mean, I work as a temp and make nearly double that.

BAM! It's 2014 and you're fresh out of law school. You've had trouble finding a job but two offers have suddenly opened up which is a godsend since you're $180,000 in debt. You can do temp work for $20 and give up any chance of every paying off your loans or doing anything beyond scraping by OR you can do legal work for $10 and receive job training and maybe one day you hang your own shingle and make 200k a year.


Temping is really looked down upon, at least in this market. RM told me that his firm (the elusive midlaw) would think twice about hiring someone who had been a contract attorney. It's kind of a cruel standard IMO, because recent grads need to start chipping away at that debt somehow.


Did he say why? I mean, I can guess and all, but did he give the concrete reasons?


I'm not certain why. This profession is obsessed with prestige, which should surprise no one. Given the state of the legal market, it probably no longer reflects badly on someone if they can't get a better job right away.




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