Will we really be making $160,000?

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Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby liplaw » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:46 pm

I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby ughOSU » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:48 pm

liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:48 pm

liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?



Use the search function.

There are already 11ty billion threads on here abt this.
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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:49 pm

liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?


I think the "1" added before $60,000 is a mistake. In this economy it's cost prohibitive to fix all the pamphlets, websites, data, etc. to reflect the actual salary figure so it's kept at 160k. Sorry about that.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby Flanker1067 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:50 pm

LipLaw, just wait for employment data next year. If it still says that, and they actually tell you how many are reporting, then your case is solid. Expectations are that you will not see it again though.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby mpasi » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?


I think the "1" added before $60,000 is a mistake. In this economy it's cost prohibitive to fix all the pamphlets, websites, data, etc. to reflect the actual salary figure so it's kept at 160k. Sorry about that.



LOL.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby bygbr » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:51 pm

ughOSU wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.


You should check your own grammar.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby ughOSU » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:53 pm

bygbr wrote:
ughOSU wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.


You should check your own grammar.

was not attempting to speak in a complete sentence.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby bygbr » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:55 pm

ughOSU wrote:
bygbr wrote:
ughOSU wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.


You should check your own grammar.

was not attempting to speak in a complete sentence.


I doubt he was attempting to speak with perfect grammar.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby kareenak888 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:09 pm

ughOSU wrote:
bygbr wrote:
ughOSU wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.


You should check your own grammar.

was not attempting to speak in a complete sentence.


ughOSU get a life. Honestly.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:11 pm

ughOSU wrote:
liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading.

with grammar like that, you will not be making $160,000 per year.


Ohhhhh snap! You told him.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby ughOSU » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:17 pm

eh, you're all cunts. But seriously, using "that" 4 times in one sentence doesn't deserve to get called out? I'll try to get over it if you guys do...

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby facetious » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:26 pm

liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?


that is a faulty assumption, particularly with tier 3 and 4 schools. for example, look at nyls employment data: --LinkRemoved--

96% reporting employment information (are you employed? even as a babysitter or night watchmen?)
25% reporting salary information

then nyls breaks it down even further, until they can finally show a 160k median in the private sector. its quite misleading to say the least, and even though the information is there to determine that it is probably complete crap, they present it quite deceptively. i am too lazy to look at other schools that aren't even in a top market, but i'd imagine this type of statistical manipulation is rampant.

edit: to avoid complete grammar fail.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby lawschooliseasy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:28 pm

liplaw wrote:I hear a lot that even though many top schools advertise that the median salary is $160,000, that in actuality that info is very misleading. Assuming that most of the graduates submit salary data, how is this data misleading? Doesn't it mean that half the class have salaries under 160,000 and half have salaries over that figure?


Only if you get that Cooley JD!!

/Cooley trolling

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby detljgh » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:31 pm

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:32 pm

Almost all law grads earn 160K or more per year. They always have and they always will. The economy is sound and firms are hiring in mass quantities. The hardest decision you will likely make 3 years out of school is which color Porche to buy and whether you want to bang the blonde model on the regular (keeping the two brunettes to the side), or some other reasonable dating structure therein, while trying to decide between McCallen 25 or Louis for an after dinner drink at Peter L's after leaving work at exactly 5:01pm at a biglaw firm of your choice, having worked a full day in your dream practice area (international public law), writing briefs to the SCOTUS or at the worst one of those pesky Courts of Appeal at the gasp.. circuit level....

Sit back an enjoy the ride. Any T100 LS will do.
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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:35 pm

reasonable_man wrote:Almost all law grads earn 160K or more per year. They always have and they always will. The economy is sound and firms are hiring in mass quantities. The hardest decision you will likely make 3 years out of school is which color Porche to buy and whether you want to bang the blonde model on the regular (keeping the two brunettes to the side), or some other reasonable dating structure therein, while trying to decide between McCallen 25 or Louis for an after dinner drink at Peter L's after leaving work at exactly 5:01pm at a biglaw firm of your choice, having worked a full day in your dream practice area (international public law or perhaps cross boarder saving the whales from mean terrorist law), writing briefs to the SCOTUS or at the worst one of those pesky Courts of Appeal at the gasp.. circuit level....

Sit back an enjoy the ride. Any T100 LS will do.


I liked where you were going with this until we got to saving the whales. Sarcasm is a delicate device....not to be used carelessly. Possible edit please? I think if you subsitute the whale thing for something else, It will be very lulz-worthy. :D

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby bissey » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:36 pm

160k is the minimum you will be earning

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:37 pm

reasonabledoubt wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:Almost all law grads earn 160K or more per year. They always have and they always will. The economy is sound and firms are hiring in mass quantities. The hardest decision you will likely make 3 years out of school is which color Porche to buy and whether you want to bang the blonde model on the regular (keeping the two brunettes to the side), or some other reasonable dating structure therein, while trying to decide between McCallen 25 or Louis for an after dinner drink at Peter L's after leaving work at exactly 5:01pm at a biglaw firm of your choice, having worked a full day in your dream practice area (international public law or perhaps cross boarder saving the whales from mean terrorist law), writing briefs to the SCOTUS or at the worst one of those pesky Courts of Appeal at the gasp.. circuit level....

Sit back an enjoy the ride. Any T100 LS will do.


I liked where you were going with this until we got to saving the whales. Sarcasm is a delicate device....not to be used carelessly. Possible edit please? I think if you subsitute the whale thing for something else, It will be very lulz-worthy. :D


Only because I considered deleting it as I typed it has this edit taken place ;)

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby Renzo » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:41 pm

reasonable_man wrote:Only because I considered deleting it as I typed it has this edit taken place ;)

Well done sir, well done.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby los blancos » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:46 pm

FWIW I already have a T10 acceptance and I'm going into it with the mindset that I'm going to get median grades wherever I go and end up slaving away at a $60k job unless the legal job market improves significantly.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby BigA » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:12 pm

bissey wrote:160k is the minimum you will be earning


True. Schools like to be extra cautious when providing their salary information. They don't want to risk any students feeling disappointed upon graduation. The 160k is probably a conservative figure.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby crazycanuck » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:09 am

Only for those practicing constitutional law.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:48 am

crazycanuck wrote:Only for those practicing [strike]constitutional[/strike] international law.


Fixed

No one who specializes in con-law is in it for the money.

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Re: Will we really be making $160,000?

Postby legends159 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:21 am

I think you meant international human rights law.




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