Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

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Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:35 pm

Ok. Here is the problem.
The U.S. laws prevent me to serve in the military of other foregin governments.
I came here with my Green Card many years ago with no desire to return to my country.
I am a US citizen now.
I haven't talk to my family since then.
From one of the family friends, I just realized that there is an open warrent on me issued by a foregin sovereignty. The warrent was issued while I was in America.
I didn't really commit any crime back there. I chose to follow the U.S. laws and did not serve in the foregin army.
What should I do now? Can I pass C&F ? I am already in law school now.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby bissey » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok. Here is the problem.
The U.S. laws prevent me to serve in the military of other foregin governments.
I came here with my Green Card many years ago with no desire to return to my country.
I am a US citizen now.
I haven't talk to my family since then.
From one of the family friends, I just realized that there is an open warrent on me issued by a foregin sovereignty. The warrent was issued while I was in America.
I didn't really commit any crime back there. I chose to follow the U.S. laws and did not serve in the foregin army.
What should I do now? Can I pass C&F ? I am already in law school now.


Are you sure the U.S. prevents its citizens from serving in another country's military? I disagree.

Regardless, I have dual citizenship and have a military obligation to my country of origin. If I do not serve there by a certain age, the only thing that happens is that if I step foot in the country, I will be taken straight to the military and will be forced to serve. But if I never go back, nothing will happen.

No one in the U.S. will know about this (based on experience and opinion) and they will not care because you have done nothing wrong in terms of U.S. laws.

Edit: just checked the first part; you CAN serve for another nation and remain a U.S. citizen as long as you intend to remain a citizen.
Last edited by bissey on Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:53 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby kurla88 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:50 pm

...Just wanted to say that the title of this thread is amazing.

But I have no idea. Try the Disciplinary Board of the state you want to practice.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby hank44 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:52 pm

what school do you go to? your grammar/spelling is.....not so good.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby CyLaw » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:04 pm

bissey wrote:Edit: just checked the first part; you CAN serve for another nation and remain a U.S. citizen as long as you intend to remain a citizen.


Just to second this part. You can find more information at http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_780.html.

I don't think many here will be able to comment on your situation. I would suggest either contacting the Bar directly and anonymously, or talking with a lawyer specializing in immigration to see if there are any protective status you can gain to help you in your C&F.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby GATORTIM » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:15 pm

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby gatorlion » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:27 pm

You can indeed serve in more than one country's military. My uncle served in both the U.S. Army Reserves and Israel's IDF.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby matrix637 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:39 pm

bissey wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok. Here is the problem.
The U.S. laws prevent me to serve in the military of other foregin governments.
I came here with my Green Card many years ago with no desire to return to my country.
I am a US citizen now.
I haven't talk to my family since then.
From one of the family friends, I just realized that there is an open warrent on me issued by a foregin sovereignty. The warrent was issued while I was in America.
I didn't really commit any crime back there. I chose to follow the U.S. laws and did not serve in the foregin army.
What should I do now? Can I pass C&F ? I am already in law school now.


Are you sure the U.S. prevents its citizens from serving in another country's military? I disagree.

Regardless, I have dual citizenship and have a military obligation to my country of origin. If I do not serve there by a certain age, the only thing that happens is that if I step foot in the country, I will be taken straight to the military and will be forced to serve. But if I never go back, nothing will happen.

No one in the U.S. will know about this (based on experience and opinion) and they will not care because you have done nothing wrong in terms of U.S. laws.

Edit: just checked the first part; you CAN serve for another nation and remain a U.S. citizen as long as you intend to remain a citizen.


Bissey, are you Persian by any chance? :|

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby bissey » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:08 pm

matrix637 wrote:
bissey wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok. Here is the problem.
The U.S. laws prevent me to serve in the military of other foregin governments.
I came here with my Green Card many years ago with no desire to return to my country.
I am a US citizen now.
I haven't talk to my family since then.
From one of the family friends, I just realized that there is an open warrent on me issued by a foregin sovereignty. The warrent was issued while I was in America.
I didn't really commit any crime back there. I chose to follow the U.S. laws and did not serve in the foregin army.
What should I do now? Can I pass C&F ? I am already in law school now.


Are you sure the U.S. prevents its citizens from serving in another country's military? I disagree.

Regardless, I have dual citizenship and have a military obligation to my country of origin. If I do not serve there by a certain age, the only thing that happens is that if I step foot in the country, I will be taken straight to the military and will be forced to serve. But if I never go back, nothing will happen.

No one in the U.S. will know about this (based on experience and opinion) and they will not care because you have done nothing wrong in terms of U.S. laws.

Edit: just checked the first part; you CAN serve for another nation and remain a U.S. citizen as long as you intend to remain a citizen.


Bissey, are you Persian by any chance? :|


I'm Turkish

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby amputatedbrain » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:12 pm

I'm still a 0L, but I do know that you can forfeit your US citizenship if you enlist in another nations military. It's probably on a case-by-case basis (i.e. was it UK's military or Chinas), but it's definitely a serious issue, and you can lose your US status.

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:15 pm

Is there a bounty placed on your head?

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby CyLaw » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:24 pm

amputatedbrain wrote:I'm still a 0L, but I do know that you can forfeit your US citizenship if you enlist in another nations military. It's probably on a case-by-case basis (i.e. was it UK's military or Chinas), but it's definitely a serious issue, and you can lose your US status.


Read the link I posted from the State department website. It only has to do with the intention of the individual (wether they intend to forfeit citizenship or not). Automatic loss is the old law. Things changed in 1967

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Re: Can I pass C&F if there is an open warrent on me?

Postby Oblomov » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:09 pm

This is a fun question to speculate about, but you really need to talk with an expert. Contact the bar in the/a state you'd like to be admitted in and do it soon as there may be a lot of procedural stuff you have to go though viz-a-viz Turkey. Or it could be that they just don't give a shit.




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