1L Summer Non-URM

(On Campus Interviews, Summer Associate positions, Firm Reviews, Tips, ...)
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting

Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.

Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
Anonymous User
Posts: 273385
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:25 pm

Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Renzo
Posts: 4265
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:23 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Renzo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Small firms. Use the Martindale-Hubble index on Lexis to look for small firms that practice in areas you like and in geographic locations you have ties to/ go to school in.

User avatar
Aeroplane
Posts: 473
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:40 pm

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Aeroplane » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?


It is not a big fat no at all. Speaking very generally, medium-to-large firms in smaller markets will hire 1L SA's, but they look hard for ties to the area. If you are from a "top" school, they won't necessarily insist on stellar grades.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273385
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:36 pm

I'm from a T2 school in a major city/market, but there are some smaller cities around that may have more ties to my school. What's the best way to research possible opportunities?

User avatar
Aeroplane
Posts: 473
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:40 pm

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Aeroplane » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm from a T2 school in a major city/market, but there are some smaller cities around that may have more ties to my school. What's the best way to research possible opportunities?
My two cents based on my personal experience & anecdotal evidence from a smaller market:
With a T2 school, your grades will matter to larger firms. If you think they're good enough to give you a shot at a larger firm (at least top 1/3 probably and that's being generous), then for a first pass use NALP and/or Martindale Hubbel to find firms with >100 lawyers in the smaller markets you have ties to. If you want to find really small firms, like under 20 lawyers, grades will matter much less/not at all and I don't know of any way better than the phone book.

Edit: when I say ties to the area, I don't mean just through your school, but where you grew up, worked, went to UG, etc.

User avatar
Kohinoor
Posts: 2756
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:51 pm

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Kohinoor » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Firms look for all types of diversity for their summer hires.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273385
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:56 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Firms look for all types of diversity for their summer hires.


Would a boring middle class white guy fresh out of UG count as diverse?

User avatar
JazzOne
Posts: 2938
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:04 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby JazzOne » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:57 pm

Renzo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Small firms. Use the Martindale-Hubble index on Lexis to look for small firms that practice in areas you like and in geographic locations you have ties to/ go to school in.

+1

My career counselor told me about Martindale today. It's legit.

User avatar
wiseowl
Posts: 1071
Joined: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:38 pm

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby wiseowl » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:50 pm

JazzOne wrote:
Renzo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Small firms. Use the Martindale-Hubble index on Lexis to look for small firms that practice in areas you like and in geographic locations you have ties to/ go to school in.

+1

My career counselor told me about Martindale today. It's legit.


yikes. your career counselor certainly took his sweet time.

User avatar
JazzOne
Posts: 2938
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:04 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby JazzOne » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:39 pm

wiseowl wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
Renzo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok, so this is probably a big fat no but are there any firms that hire Non-URMs for the summer? If so, how can I find them?

Small firms. Use the Martindale-Hubble index on Lexis to look for small firms that practice in areas you like and in geographic locations you have ties to/ go to school in.

+1

My career counselor told me about Martindale today. It's legit.


yikes. your career counselor certainly took his sweet time.

I blew off job apps last semester. It's totally my fault. I went in to see her for the first time yesterday.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273385
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: 1L Summer Non-URM

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:37 pm

It depends on what school you attend. I'm a non-URM who attends HYS, and I've gotten an interview at a couple of biglaw firms. Now, my URM friends are having a much more successful go of it than I, but I'm also more interested in doing government or public interest work my 1L summer anyway.




Return to “Legal Employment”

Who is online

The online users are hidden on this forum.