How to be a Successful Splitter

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ScottRiqui
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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby ScottRiqui » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:50 pm

For a splitter applying to a particular school, is there a "point of diminishing returns" when it comes to LSAT scores? In other words, are you that much more attractive with an LSAT that's 9-10 points above the school's 75th percentile as opposed to "only" being 3-4 points above their 75th?

I'm curious because it seems like as long as you're significantly above their mean, you're not going to improve their mean any further by being *way* above it.

Also, I know the correct response is "look at different schools where you're not so far above their mean", but let's assume that the choice of potential schools is fixed due to other criteria.

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby crumpetsandtea » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:38 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:For a splitter applying to a particular school, is there a "point of diminishing returns" when it comes to LSAT scores? In other words, are you that much more attractive with an LSAT that's 9-10 points above the school's 75th percentile as opposed to "only" being 3-4 points above their 75th?

I'm curious because it seems like as long as you're significantly above their mean, you're not going to improve their mean any further by being *way* above it.

Also, I know the correct response is "look at different schools where you're not so far above their mean", but let's assume that the choice of potential schools is fixed due to other criteria.

It depends on how low your GPA is. I'd say that there are diminishing returns once you hit 175+ for almost everyone, but there will always be a difference between a 173 and a 176.

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby 06102016 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:50 pm

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby Gustave » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:19 pm

It depends. Colleges use indices (see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEWt0RuluA4dEdKbzNheGxodHpiSUM5dFNiNXF4ZGc&pli=1#gid=0) to help compare applicants' GPA +LSAT. However, the USNWR only takes into account the median LSAT score and GPA, so a 178 moving up to a 180 doesn't help at all. That being said, they are under significant pressure to keep their average LSAT and GPA up, and us splitters are a very economic way to do so.
It's easier to get two students who have a 4.0/166 and 3.4/176 respectively than two students who have a 3.7/171. Although these numbers average out the same, the first applicant pool will have no net effect on the median GPA and LSATs, assuming that those medians are between the bounds of 3.4-4.0 and 166-176.

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby Granfalloon12 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:45 pm

togepi wrote:Has any of the schools shifted to be more splitter friendly in the face of decreasing admissions?


I'm wondering the same, especially considering recent reasons to believe applications are down rather drastically. I'd love to hear someone's thoughts on this, especially in terms of T14 and the schools close by.

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby 20141023 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:07 pm

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby flops89 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:19 pm

UCLA, traditionally unfriendly to splitters, admitted me, a non-urm, sub 3.0, 170+.

I was surprised.

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby Legally Bleached » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:35 am

chill wrote:Iowa also took me, as of this morning. So for any future splitters reading through this, both W&M and Iowa took a sub-3.0 student who had a 179. Overall, neither should be red, I think.


Bumping Iowa quickly, two of my friends got into Iowa with GPA's that were lower than the floors. However, both are in-state native residents so that could have impacted the decision (maybe hoping they wouldn't leave the state, similar to the push the undergraduate college tries to make with low in-state tuition).

Iowa's in-state tuition is low and so is COL so it's one of the school's I am definitely applying to but I'm worried about being able to get out of the Midwest by going. This chart helps a lot, thanks again to the OP!

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby bigcityguy0 » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:05 pm

Has the distinction between which colleges are considered splitter-friendly and not changed since this was first posted? Any updated chart available for 2016?

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby ewdrrg » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:30 am

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby GoGreen17 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:40 pm

I know a lot of schools LSAT numbers are dropping, does anybody think this makes them more favorable for splitters? Or could this even affect their GPA 'floors' (higher/lower)?

I'm interested to hear people's thoughts on changes to the validity of this post since 2011

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Re: How to be a Successful Splitter

Postby TWiiX » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:33 pm

GoGreen17 wrote:I know a lot of schools LSAT numbers are dropping, does anybody think this makes them more favorable for splitters? Or could this even affect their GPA 'floors' (higher/lower)?

I'm interested to hear people's thoughts on changes to the validity of this post since 2011



Also curious because I haven't been keeping up with the news, stats, polls, etc since im studying. tagging for reference




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