WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2012)
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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby VAGATOR » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:51 pm

gk101 wrote:
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Ali wrote:Anyone know when we're supposed to get our Financial Aid documents? Loan papers?

I signed the initial award letter and mailed it back a few weeks back.


You should of gotten an email from the financial aid office with instructions on filling out the promissory notes and completing the entrance counseling. I received it a couple weeks ago.


how long ago did you send in your signed award letter? I haven't received any financial aid emails yet and I sent in the signed letter about a month ago.


I sent it in a while ago, probably a month ago too.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby WassAnch » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:58 pm

gk101 wrote:
VAGATOR wrote:
Ali wrote:Anyone know when we're supposed to get our Financial Aid documents? Loan papers?

I signed the initial award letter and mailed it back a few weeks back.


You should of gotten an email from the financial aid office with instructions on filling out the promissory notes and completing the entrance counseling. I received it a couple weeks ago.


how long ago did you send in your signed award letter? I haven't received any financial aid emails yet and I sent in the signed letter about a month ago.


You should probably contact them. I sent in my award letter on Monday and got the email yesterday.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby gk101 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:34 pm

WassAnch wrote:
gk101 wrote:
VAGATOR wrote:
Ali wrote:Anyone know when we're supposed to get our Financial Aid documents? Loan papers?

I signed the initial award letter and mailed it back a few weeks back.


You should of gotten an email from the financial aid office with instructions on filling out the promissory notes and completing the entrance counseling. I received it a couple weeks ago.


how long ago did you send in your signed award letter? I haven't received any financial aid emails yet and I sent in the signed letter about a month ago.


You should probably contact them. I sent in my award letter on Monday and got the email yesterday.


I think I may have to. There have been a couple of e-mails mentioned here that I never received :?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Ali » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:39 pm

VAGATOR wrote:
Ali wrote:Anyone know when we're supposed to get our Financial Aid documents? Loan papers?

I signed the initial award letter and mailed it back a few weeks back.


You should of gotten an email from the financial aid office with instructions on filling out the promissory notes and completing the entrance counseling. I received it a couple weeks ago.



Oops...I did get that email, and sorta ignored it. Thanks for the reminder.
It has 2 attachments in it with the forms.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby WassAnch » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:23 pm

I think that it's time for a bump...

Has anyone gotten the parking pass for the housing day yet? I just got the email today saying that they would mail me the pass...It's not going to be very useful if it gets to my house on Friday.

Anyways, where is everyone staying? I plan on exploring a little bit on Thursday night and might need a wingman to pull me out of a bar or two...

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby ShaBam84 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:46 pm

WassAnch wrote:I think that it's time for a bump...

Has anyone gotten the parking pass for the housing day yet? I just got the email today saying that they would mail me the pass...It's not going to be very useful if it gets to my house on Friday.

Anyways, where is everyone staying? I plan on exploring a little bit on Thursday night and might need a wingman to pull me out of a bar or two...


Haven't figured out where I am staying yet. I am flying in on Wednesday and flying out on Friday. Have you see the Cicero's website? I definitely want to check that out! ciceros-stl.com

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby gk101 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:06 pm

WassAnch wrote:I think that it's time for a bump...

Has anyone gotten the parking pass for the housing day yet? I just got the email today saying that they would mail me the pass...It's not going to be very useful if it gets to my house on Friday.

Anyways, where is everyone staying? I plan on exploring a little bit on Thursday night and might need a wingman to pull me out of a bar or two...


I got the parking pass a few days ago in the mail. The e-mail today mentioned that you can pick up the parking pass on thursday if it doesn't get to you by then in the mail. I will be there on Wednesday and am leaving Friday. I will definitely be hitting up a few bars while I am there.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Justice4All » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 pm

gk101 wrote:
WassAnch wrote:I think that it's time for a bump...

Has anyone gotten the parking pass for the housing day yet? I just got the email today saying that they would mail me the pass...It's not going to be very useful if it gets to my house on Friday.

Anyways, where is everyone staying? I plan on exploring a little bit on Thursday night and might need a wingman to pull me out of a bar or two...


I got the parking pass a few days ago in the mail. The e-mail today mentioned that you can pick up the parking pass on thursday if it doesn't get to you by then in the mail. I will be there on Wednesday and am leaving Friday. I will definitely be hitting up a few bars while I am there.


Is housing day this Thursday?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Leeroy Jenkins » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 pm

the 18th, so yea

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby seatown12 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:55 pm

Is anyone going to the July 9 housing day? By the time I knew I was in flights were too expensive for me to justify going out there this week.

Oh yea Cicero's is legit, great beer selection.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby ShaBam84 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:05 pm

seatown12 wrote:Is anyone going to the July 9 housing day? By the time I knew I was in flights were too expensive for me to justify going out there this week.

Oh yea Cicero's is legit, great beer selection.


I just pricelined a round trip from Los Angeles for 250

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby seatown12 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:11 pm

Wish my local airport was the main West Coast hub. I could get that price from SEA if there was a Halloween week housing day :mrgreen:

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby gk101 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:17 pm

My cousin just offered me an extra ticket for the cardinals game on wednesday night! baseball will be such a distraction for me during law school. Thank god I am a cubs fan and predictably I won't have to worry about baseball after September :oops:

anyways, those of us going should plan a bar meet-up for thursday. Any suggestions?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:55 pm

gk101 wrote:My cousin just offered me an extra ticket for the cardinals game on wednesday night! baseball will be such a distraction for me during law school. Thank god I am a cubs fan and predictably I won't have to worry about baseball after September :oops:


Your :oops: face is my :) face ... I have grown up my entire life a Cardinals fan.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby steindle » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:40 pm

gk101 wrote:My cousin just offered me an extra ticket for the cardinals game on wednesday night! baseball will be such a distraction for me during law school. Thank god I am a cubs fan and predictably I won't have to worry about baseball after September :oops:

In this sense, being a Pirates fan is a real asset. I generally don't have to care about baseball any time after mid-May or possibly late June if things get really wild.

Or, you know, any time after 1992 really.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:44 pm

In this sense, being a Pirates fan is a real asset. I generally don't have to care about baseball any time after mid-May or possibly late June if things get really wild.

Or, you know, any time after 1992 really.


Am I correct to assume that you are also a Steelers and Penguins fan? Fortunately football will typically only impact Sunday afternoons ...

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby ShaBam84 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:56 pm

seatown12 wrote:Wish my local airport was the main West Coast hub. I could get that price from SEA if there was a Halloween week housing day :mrgreen:


I said LA, but in truth it is Ontario. Did you try throwing out a bid?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby steindle » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:07 am

chadwick218 wrote:
In this sense, being a Pirates fan is a real asset. I generally don't have to care about baseball any time after mid-May or possibly late June if things get really wild.

Or, you know, any time after 1992 really.


Am I correct to assume that you are also a Steelers and Penguins fan? Fortunately football will typically only impact Sunday afternoons ...

Definitely a Steelers fan -- there is a chip implanted in all children born in Pittsburgh ensuring that.

As much as I wish I could jump on the Penguins bandwagon right now, I'm going to let the real fans revel in their win without disturbing them...I've seen too many of my coworkers suddenly start sporting jerseys and mispronouncing names in the last month :). (It certainly was fun to watch the Stanley Cup, though!)

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Ali » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:28 pm

Do you guys know if we're allowed to take classes in the undergrad school, just for fun? Or do we have to pay?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Justice4All » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:31 pm

Ali wrote:Do you guys know if we're allowed to take classes in the undergrad school, just for fun? Or do we have to pay?


yes

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Ali » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:52 pm

Justice4All wrote:
Ali wrote:Do you guys know if we're allowed to take classes in the undergrad school, just for fun? Or do we have to pay?


yes


yes, as in for "free" ?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby seatown12 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:26 pm

ShaBam84 wrote:
seatown12 wrote:Wish my local airport was the main West Coast hub. I could get that price from SEA if there was a Halloween week housing day :mrgreen:


I said LA, but in truth it is Ontario. Did you try throwing out a bid?

Damn good call I didn't know you could do that. Too bad I'm already booked for July. :?

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby Lawrence » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:18 pm

I crunched some numbers today with the data that was sent out about employment from Mike Spivey. Those numbers were based on 65% of the class reporting. (147 out of about 226) In order to get my numbers I'm assuming that everyone who did not respond must have either been unemployed/below the reported salaries that I'm looking at. It would also assume that anyone in public interest or government positions would not be making more than around 75,000 which may also not be correct. I basically just broke the numbers down for the worst case scenario.

65% of those reporting went into private practice. This gives us about 95.5 people total from the class. Of those the top quartile made 160,000. This means atleast 24 people, or about 10.6% were able to get biglaw in markets such as Chicago or New York that pay that rate.

At the median of those in private practice there was a salary of 152,000. About another 24 people were able to get those jobs. This means the top 21.6 percent of the class were able to bring in that much money.

At the 25th percentile they reported a salary of greater than 75,000. I assume if it was much greater they would have said so, so I will just go with that number. Once again another 24 of those going into private practice would make that much and that would mean the top 32.2% would be making atleast 75,000.

Another disclaimer here is that 26 students secured judicial clerkships. If you assume that all of these students would have been able to get biglaw, which may not necessarily be true, then that is another 11.5% of the class that would have been able to secure a high paying job. If you add that percentage to those who can earn atleast that median salary you would have about 33.1% of students with the ability to get biglaw paying 150k plus, which is pretty impressive. I would be interested to know how many actually secured biglaw in secondary markets like St. Louis which would pay in between that 150-160k and the 75k for the 25th percentile, however statistically it doesn't look like it would be a huge number.

These numbers are about what I expected to find based on earlier estimates I've seen. Also, hopefully of those 35% who are not reporting, some are gainfully employed and just didn't report it which would make these results look better. None of this will be that groundbreaking but I thought some of you guys might be interested on some stats based on real numbers that aren't fudged (I actually did my best to fudge them the opposite way) as opposed to estimates or guesses.

Edit: Another flaw I just thought of. Some of those going into government and public interest positions definitely had the grades for biglaw. That would add to the percentage of students able to secure those jobs, but I don't have any data to give any sort of reliable figure on that.

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby steindle » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:00 pm

Very interesting, Lawrence. Thanks for running through the numbers...encouraging, especially "in this economy."

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Re: WashU (wustl) Class of 2012!

Postby seatown12 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:38 pm

65% is the percentage of graduates who went into private practice, not all those who reported. This and more information can be found by following the link in Mr. Spivey's email.

The email also says that 33% (presumably of those in private practice) earned salaries of at least $160k. 33% of 65% means that just over 21% of all 2008 graduates are making $160k. $152k being the median private practice salary means at least 32.5% (65*.5) of all graduates are earning that amount, even better than the 21.6% Lawrence reports. Big money is definitely out there for Wash U grads.




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