Iowa 2012

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2012)
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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IpunchedCharlieRose » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:02 pm

I'm going to the Chicago meet and greet. Looks like a nice place. I'll be sure to tuck in my shirt and everything.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:48 pm

IpunchedCharlieRose wrote:I'm going to the Chicago meet and greet. Looks like a nice place. I'll be sure to tuck in my shirt and everything.

Try not to punch the alumni. :mrgreen:

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby Whitty » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:14 am

Well friends it looks as though I will try to make one of the meet-ups this summer, the jury is still out on the location but why oh why did they plan the Iowa city meet-up on the 4th??!! Sheesh, kindof a busy time in these parts.

Also, an update on this whole "new to Iowa" observation list. Everything smells like bacon. That is all.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:28 am

Anyone living in The Lodge?

If so, what's your floorplan/rent?

How strict was the application/credit check?

I'm trying to see how far that is from the law school right now. They told me that all the 1brs are gone. I don't want a roomate! :( But a lot of these other places look like crap. And unfortunately, many of the Craigslist apts don't show pictures... Meaning they probably look like crap as well! :x

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby rainmaker614 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:27 pm

IlliChica wrote:Anyone living in The Lodge?

If so, what's your floorplan/rent?

How strict was the application/credit check?

I'm trying to see how far that is from the law school right now. They told me that all the 1brs are gone. I don't want a roomate! :( But a lot of these other places look like crap. And unfortunately, many of the Craigslist apts don't show pictures... Meaning they probably look like crap as well! :x


The Lodge isn't far from the law school but I wouldn't call it easy walking distance. It's across from a Walmart on the main road right after Benton street from what I remember and so it's behind all of the other apartment complexes on Benton street. The complex is big but the feeling I got from the place was that it was mostly a bunch of undergraduates that were looking for a "fun" place to live and meet, which isn't too cool if you're looking for some quiet study time or just don't want to be with a bunch of undergrads. It was very..... dorm like.

As for the ones on Craigslist, just ask for pictures and they'll send them. Some of the complexes are pretty nice and the fact that they aren't furnished (I think the Lodge had furnished apartments), means they can be a hell of a lot nicer than the rooms at the Lodge. If walking distance to the law school isn't a huge issue there are some nice apartments in Coralville, which isn't far driving wise.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:39 pm

rainmaker614 wrote:
IlliChica wrote:Anyone living in The Lodge?

If so, what's your floorplan/rent?

How strict was the application/credit check?

I'm trying to see how far that is from the law school right now. They told me that all the 1brs are gone. I don't want a roomate! :( But a lot of these other places look like crap. And unfortunately, many of the Craigslist apts don't show pictures... Meaning they probably look like crap as well! :x


The Lodge isn't far from the law school but I wouldn't call it easy walking distance. It's across from a Walmart on the main road right after Benton street from what I remember and so it's behind all of the other apartment complexes on Benton street. The complex is big but the feeling I got from the place was that it was mostly a bunch of undergraduates that were looking for a "fun" place to live and meet, which isn't too cool if you're looking for some quiet study time or just don't want to be with a bunch of undergrads. It was very..... dorm like.

As for the ones on Craigslist, just ask for pictures and they'll send them. Some of the complexes are pretty nice and the fact that they aren't furnished (I think the Lodge had furnished apartments), means they can be a hell of a lot nicer than the rooms at the Lodge. If walking distance to the law school isn't a huge issue there are some nice apartments in Coralville, which isn't far driving wise.


Thanks. I understand what you're saying about the undergrad issue. I'm kinda disappointed about the unfurnished aspect. Almost ALL apartments in my undergrad town came furnished. It's really annoying that I might have to buy furniture to go to IC. I liked that The Lodge looked clean and new. Can anyone suggest some of the nicer complexes, (more modern, clean) preferably ones that come furnished?

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:41 pm

Also, did someone start an IOWA 2012 facebook group? If not... WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? :x



:lol:

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby giaps2 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:19 pm

I was just in IC this past weekend and I looked at The Lodge. They paint a pretty picture on the tour, but the reviews online made some unforgivable accusations. I'm still looking around but I'm worrying that I'll have to either get a 2 bedroom by myself unless I luck out. I know what you mean about the furnishing issue, all the apts in Champaign come furnished.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby Whitty » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:56 pm

Avoid The Lodge like the plague.

Ye have been warned.



For those of you still looking for housing the best advice I can offer is to check out Seville and Carriage Hill, they are pretty nice/close/reasonably priced. Just E-mail the management and see if there are any left available. :mrgreen:

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:12 pm

Whitty wrote:Avoid The Lodge like the plague.

Ye have been warned.



For those of you still looking for housing the best advice I can offer is to check out Seville and Carriage Hill, they are pretty nice/close/reasonably priced. Just E-mail the management and see if there are any left available. :mrgreen:


Heeded! :D

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby dt22 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:56 pm

Myself: from Iowa, hoping to go to school on one of the coasts.
Question to you: why did you choose to go with Iowa Law?

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:15 pm

dt22 wrote:Myself: from Iowa, hoping to go to school on one of the coasts.
Question to you: why did you choose to go with Iowa Law?



One of the higher-ranked schools that accepted me and when I visited, I really liked the vibe.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby dt22 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:29 pm

IlliChica wrote:
dt22 wrote:Myself: from Iowa, hoping to go to school on one of the coasts.
Question to you: why did you choose to go with Iowa Law?



One of the higher-ranked schools that accepted me and when I visited, I really liked the vibe.



Huh..

a. seems like the university is ranked higher compared to the law school itself, from what i've read
b. I visited also, but during winter time...everything seemed gray and sad..maybe it was the season that made a difference for me...Even Drake law (blaaah) felt better....Also, not a very large focus on international law (understandably), which is what I'm interested in.

what's your potential focus?

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:30 pm

dt22 wrote:
IlliChica wrote:
dt22 wrote:Myself: from Iowa, hoping to go to school on one of the coasts.
Question to you: why did you choose to go with Iowa Law?



One of the higher-ranked schools that accepted me and when I visited, I really liked the vibe.



Huh..

a. seems like the university is ranked higher compared to the law school itself, from what i've read
b. I visited also, but during winter time...everything seemed gray and sad..maybe it was the season that made a difference for me...Even Drake law (blaaah) felt better....Also, not a very large focus on international law (understandably), which is what I'm interested in.

what's your potential focus?

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The following professors provide the chief teaching and research support for the International and Comparative Program at the College of Law.

Patricia N. Acton
John Allen
David C. Baldus
Willard L. Boyd
Steven J. Burton
William G. Buss
Jonathan Carlson
Enrique R. Carrasco
Marcella David
Alexander Domrin
Ann Estin
Don Ford
Mark Janis
Nicholas Johnson
John C. Reitz
Christopher Rossi
Wendie Schneider
Mark Sidel
Alexander Somek
Lea VanderVelde
Burns H. Weston
Adrien Katherine Wing
Tung Yin

What do you expect from a large focus on international law?

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby Whitty » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 pm

Holy giant post Mikey! :shock:

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:05 am

Whitty wrote:Holy giant post Mikey! :shock:

How else to disprove the contention that Iowa lacks a large focus on international law? :)

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby coolkatz321 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:21 am

You cannot focus on something that doesn't exist. International law is a nonexistent myth, get over it.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby isustudent » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:45 am

I have also heard the Lodge is absolutely terrible. Filled with loud, drunk undergrads

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby westside123 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:04 pm

There is no such thing as "international law." I'll say it again, there is no such thing as "international law." This so-called area of academic focus is nothing but a smoke and mirrors (shock and awe?) marketing tool designed to rope in students who think they'll be using their law degrees to save people in Darfur.

With regard to the law school at Iowa, the school tries to market itself as a law school with an "international focus," whatever that means, but there is positively no mentoring or guidance provided for those wanting to pursue real, viable avenues of legal practice where dealing with cross-border legal issues/interaction (say, M&A work, FDI, intellectual property rights, international trade) is a prime component.


There was a so-called information meeting with faculty members who have an "international" orientation, and the head of the "international program" told students, flat-out, that "there are firms out there that engage in international work, but you won't get those jobs (emphasis added)(again, Iowa students, regardless of how well they may do, being told to forget about employment opportunities). But you can still be involved in international work on your own."

Here’s a tip for you, instead of telling your students that they aren’t competitive for the jobs they want, how about getting off your rear-end and making the necessary connections with the firms out there and touting your students so that they have viable career opportunities. The faculty members who have a so-called "international" orientation have no interest in mentoring or guiding those students who want to pursue legal careers with such a focus. They either tell students that they should forget about pursuing such employment options (afterall, they won’t get those jobs, anyway), or they give students the brush-off (while thinking that such students are too stupid to see that they’re being rebuffed) because they have more important things to do (like directing their efforts toward moving up the law school food chain to obtain a teaching position at a better school) than to spend time with someone who didn't get into Harvard.

As far as faculty members mentioned, here's a current update:

Patricia N. Acton - Iowa graduate; not a real professor - is a clinical professor; virtually no experience outside of the state.

John Allen - not a real professor - is a clinical professor; no discernable experience dealing with real world cross-border legal practice/issues.

David C. Baldus - very smart, but very close to retirement.

Willard L. Boyd - near retirement age, and virtually no discernable experience dealing with real world cross-border legal practice/issues or any having to do with real world legal practice.

Steven J. Burton - very smart, has a bit of an odd teaching style; very knowledgeable about international arbitration/mediation.

William G. Buss -one of the, if not the, smartest faculty members at Iowa. Very sharp mind, and very empathetic towards intelligent motivated students. Knows his stuff inside and out. Also near retirement.

Jonathan Carlson - smart guy, not too much real world experience and not too interested in dealing with students.

Enrique R. Carrasco - smart, good teacher. actually has some real world experience with cross-border legal practice/issues.

Marcella David - is a University/Law School administrator. Forcuses on diversity issues. Enough said.

Alexander Domrin - smart, good teacher. knows his stuff. should be on the faculty rather than just an adjunct.

Mark Janis - very smart, very good teacher. knows his stuff inside and out. But, is leaving Iowa to go to Indiana. His departure is another sign that Iowa is on a downward trend.

Nicholas Johnson -smart, knows his stuff, but his stuff is outdated by decades. He is not a real professor/faculty member - he is a lecturer/adjunct. Hasn't done much of anything of professional or academic note in almost forty years. Expects students to treat him like he's a legal god, but hasn't done anything in decades to justify this expectation; infantile, vindictive towards students/people who fail to recognize his greatness; has a history -dating back to his last real job in 1973 - of stabbing people in the back.

John C. Reitz - see above note about the head of the "international program" at Iowa.

Christopher Rossi - smart, knows his stuff. should be a full faculty member instead of some of those do-nothing adjuncts.

Wendie Schneider - no longer there. the word is that she decided not to stay at Iowa and left after one year because she found the environment somewhat hostile.

Mark Sidel - smart, accomplished, and wants nothing whatsoever to do with students in any way, shape or form. He went to Princeton, Yale and Columbia and you didn't. Won't even talk to you about anything having anything to do with anything. Doesn't want to have anything to do with tuition paying students. Only interested in his own career advancement.

Alexander Somek - serious communication difficulties. out there.

Lea VanderVelde - hostile toward students and has been said to be in some other space.

Burns H. Weston - gone; retired.

Adrien Katherine Wing - her entire focus is on diversity topics; enough said.

Tung Yin - smart, empathetic teacher. One of the few people at Iowa who is genuinely interested in speaking with and advising students. But, is leaving Iowa to go to Lewis & Clark, I believe. His departure is another sign that Iowa is on a downward trend.
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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby giaps2 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:39 pm

Is anyone who is attending the Chigcao ASG still looking for an apartment? I ask because most of the nice places I've found only have 2 bedrooms available and after having spent the past 2 years in apartment complexes that were sub-par, I don't want to compromise on where I am going to spend the next year. I would gladly sign a lease with another law student if it meant we could live in a nice place and split the $900 or so rather than have a two bedroom to myself with a large bill.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby coolkatz321 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:21 pm

westside123 wrote:There is no such thing as "international law." I'll say it again, there is no such thing as "international law." This so-called area of academic focus is nothing but a smoke and mirrors (shock and awe?) marketing tool designed to rope in students who think they'll be using their law degrees to save people in Darfur.

With regard to the law school at Iowa, the school tries to market itself as a law school with an "international focus," whatever that means, but there is positively no mentoring or guidance provided for those wanting to pursue real, viable avenues of legal practice where dealing with cross-border legal issues/interaction (say, M&A work, FDI, intellectual property rights, international trade) is a prime component.


There was a so-called information meeting with faculty members who have an "international" orientation, and the head of the "international program" told students, flat-out, that "there are firms out there that engage in international work, but you won't get those jobs (emphasis added)(again, Iowa students, regardless of how well they may do, being told to forget about employment opportunities). But you can still be involved in international work on your own."

Here’s a tip for you, instead of telling your students that they aren’t competitive for the jobs they want, how about getting off your rear-end and making the necessary connections with the firms out there and touting your students so that they have viable career opportunities. The faculty members who have a so-called "international" orientation have no interest in mentoring or guiding those students who want to pursue legal careers with such a focus. They either tell students that they should forget about pursuing such employment options (afterall, they won’t get those jobs, anyway), or they give students the brush-off (while thinking that such students are too stupid to see that they’re being rebuffed) because they have more important things to do (like directing their efforts toward moving up the law school food chain to obtain a teaching position at a better school) than to spend time with someone who didn't get into Harvard.

As far as faculty members mentioned, here's a current update:

Patricia N. Acton - Iowa graduate; virtually no experience outside of the state.

John Allen - no discernable experience dealing with real world cross-border legal practice/issues.

David C. Baldus - very smart, but very close to retirement.

Willard L. Boyd - near retirement age, and virtually no discernable experience dealing with real world cross-border legal practice/issues.

Steven J. Burton - very smart, has a bit of an odd teaching style; very knowledgeable about international arbitration/mediation.

William G. Buss -one of the, if not the, smartest faculty members at Iowa. Very sharp mind, and very empathetic towards intelligent motivated students. Knows his stuff inside and out. Also near retirement.

Jonathan Carlson - smart guy, not too much real world experience and not too interested in dealing with students.

Enrique R. Carrasco - smart, good teacher. actually has some real world experience with cross-border legal practice/issues.

Marcella David - is more of a University/Law School administrator. Forcuses on diversity issues. Enough said.

Alexander Domrin - smart, good teacher. knows his stuff. should be on the faculty rather than just an adjunct.

Mark Janis - very smart, very good teacher. knows his stuff inside and out. But, is leaving Iowa to go to Indiana. His departure is another sign that Iowa is on a downward trend.

Nicholas Johnson -smart, knows his stuff, but his stuff is outdated by decades. He is not a faculty member - he is a lecturer/adjunct. Hasn't done much of anything of professional or academic note in almost forty years. Expects students to treat him like he's a legal god, but hasn't done anything in decades to justify this expectation.

John C. Reitz - see above note about the head of the "international program" at Iowa.

Christopher Rossi - smart, knows his stuff. should be a full faculty member instead of some of those do-nothing adjuncts.

Wendie Schneider - no longer there. the word is that she decided not to stay at Iowa and left after one year because she found the environment somewhat hostile.

Mark Sidel - smart, accomplished, and wants nothing whatsoever to do with students in any, way, shape or form. He went to Princeton, Yale and Columbia and you didn't. Won't even talk to you about anything having anything to do with anything. Doesn't want to have anything to do with tuition paying students. Only interested in his own career advancement.

Alexander Somek - serious communication difficulties. out there.

Lea VanderVelde - hostile toward students and has been said to be in some other space.

Burns H. Weston - gone; retired.

Adrien Katherine Wing - her entire focus is on diversity topics; enough said.

Tung Yin - smart, empathetic teacher. One of the few people at Iowa who is genuinely interested in speaking with and advising students. But, is leaving Iowa to go to Lewis & Clark, I believe. His departure is another sign that Iowa is on a downward trend.


:shock: Ouch.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby IlliChica » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:49 pm

giaps2 wrote:Is anyone who is attending the Chigcao ASG still looking for an apartment? I ask because most of the nice places I've found only have 2 bedrooms available and after having spent the past 2 years in apartment complexes that were sub-par, I don't want to compromise on where I am going to spend the next year. I would gladly sign a lease with another law student if it meant we could live in a nice place and split the $900 or so rather than have a two bedroom to myself with a large bill.


I've been thinking about this as well. I haven't signed a lease yet and I don't plan on doing so until like the 1st week of July (if I don't get off another wait list) so I feel this may be a dilemma for me as well. You wouldn't happen to be female, would you?

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby giaps2 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:16 pm

I've been thinking about this as well. I haven't signed a lease yet and I don't plan on doing so until like the 1st week of July (if I don't get off another wait list) so I feel this may be a dilemma for me as well. You wouldn't happen to be female, would you?


Sorry, no such luck. But good luck with the wait list/finding a place, I'm going to give the looking another shot this weekend.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby NorseHawk » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:42 am

dt22 wrote:
IlliChica wrote:
dt22 wrote:Myself: from Iowa, hoping to go to school on one of the coasts.
Question to you: why did you choose to go with Iowa Law?



One of the higher-ranked schools that accepted me and when I visited, I really liked the vibe.



Huh..

a. seems like the university is ranked higher compared to the law school itself, from what i've read


That's not true at all.

Anyway, I'm also from Iowa. I decided on the U of I mostly because the in-state tuition is so incredibly cheap, especially for a school with the reputation Iowa has. I also love Iowa City and enjoyed my visit to the law school, but it was definitely mostly a finacial thing.

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Re: Iowa 2012

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:32 pm

Anyone else going to the ASG in Minneapolis?

Minneapolis, MN:

July 29th, 5-7pm, Faegre & Benson, 2200 Wells Fargo Center, 90 South Seventh Street, Minneapolis

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