Cornell Class of 2012

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby kn6542 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:20 pm

neskerdoo wrote:
panda wrote:why do Mollenkamp and Clermont require so many books?!?! WHY!?!



look at the authors of the books Clermont requires...

All Clermon's books say the same shit.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby spanktheduck » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:09 pm

kn6542 wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:
panda wrote:why do Mollenkamp and Clermont require so many books?!?! WHY!?!



look at the authors of the books Clermont requires...

All Clermon's books say the same shit.


180. Clermont will literally have the exact same wording in 3 different books.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:49 pm

neskerdoo wrote:
panda wrote:why do Mollenkamp and Clermont require so many books?!?! WHY!?!



look at the authors of the books Clermont requires...


oh..i noticed that long before i knew he would be my Prof.. still frustrating that i have to buy every book he ever wrote..

editing the list to add all the cool new members to section D.. :wink:

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:50 pm

spanktheduck wrote:180. Clermont will literally have the exact same wording in 3 different books.


and yet ill probably end up buying them all .. and reading the exact same wording 3 different times.. whoopdi doo.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby kn6542 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:51 pm

panda wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:
panda wrote:why do Mollenkamp and Clermont require so many books?!?! WHY!?!



look at the authors of the books Clermont requires...


oh..i noticed that long before i knew he would be my Prof.. still frustrating that i have to buy every book he ever wrote..

editing the list to add all the cool new members to section D.. :wink:

Don't bother with his hornbook. You can't bring it into the exam and it doesn't say anything different than his other books. Just make sure you have his BLO because you can bring that into the exam. I think a lot of ppl just copy their outline into the BLO.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:57 pm

i heard from a 3L friend that he gets a lot of his questions from the supplements rather than the actual casebook.. and that we should put some emphasis on those..

so..anything else (tips, hints, etc..) we should know about our professors?

personally, I have Mollenkamp (heard he is really nit-picky), Johnson (don't know much..), Hilman (heard he's funny..), Heise (gets a lot of love, but don't know much about him..), and Clermont (arrogant is all i got..)

what can you oh-so-wise rising 2Ls let us know? :mrgreen:

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby kn6542 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:02 am

panda wrote:i heard from a 3L friend that he gets a lot of his questions from the supplements rather than the actual casebook.. and that we should put some emphasis on those..

so..anything else (tips, hints, etc..) we should know about our professors?

personally, I have Mollenkamp (heard he is really nit-picky), Johnson (don't know much..), Hilman (heard he's funny..), Heise (gets a lot of love, but don't know much about him..), and Clermont (arrogant is all i got..)

what can you oh-so-wise rising 2Ls let us know? :mrgreen:

Mollenkamp is cool. All lawyering profs are nit-picky, but Mollenkamp really wuvs his students. Johnson is kinda hard to relate to and I can't say more publicy, Hillman is not funny. He only seems funny because he tries to make jokes that are not funny and his delivery is so awkward that people laugh. Heise likes "the money shot", and likes it when you can "flip it." I don't think he knows what a money shot actually is. Clermont is like a civpro Rainman.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby fsohn » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:10 am

panda wrote:i heard from a 3L friend that he gets a lot of his questions from the supplements rather than the actual casebook.. and that we should put some emphasis on those..

so..anything else (tips, hints, etc..) we should know about our professors?

personally, I have Mollenkamp (heard he is really nit-picky), Johnson (don't know much..), Hilman (heard he's funny..), Heise (gets a lot of love, but don't know much about him..), and Clermont (arrogant is all i got..)

what can you oh-so-wise rising 2Ls let us know? :mrgreen:


Here's my take on the profs that I had:

Mollenkamp: Pretty good. His personality can get a little wearisome, at least to me, in larger doses. On another note, the female contingent of your writing TA group will be awesome.

Hillman: Funny in an awkward sort of way, and endearing like a grandfather. He really likes his subject, and he isn't really that tough of a questioner in class. I got cold-called the first day, and I'll never forget him for that. He uses the same jokes in his hornbook as he does in class, or at least the same kind of jokes. Nevertheless, do know your stuff. Ask a 2L that had Hillman about the Piersall Incident, and you'll know why.

Clermont: Really, just weird. I remember going to his office a few times, and each time his answer was "we'll get to that in a couple of weeks," followed by a very weird smile and an "is there anything else?" Halfway through his exam, someone from administration came in and announced that the word limit listed on his very strange essay question was correct. Maybe civpro rainmain is the best way to describe him.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby kn6542 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:20 am

Also, don't ask Hillman if he's on something, even if he tells you that he is.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:30 am

:lol:

you guys are awesome ..thanks!
if you think of anything else, or have anything else to share..please do! i think it helps most of us when we're all wondering what's to come..

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby spanktheduck » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:39 am

I loved Clermont but I don't think that most people did. The guy is very smart and knows a craplaod about Civ Pro. His final is a joke though (I only had him second semester though). 1/2 multiple choice (hardest fucking ones you will ever take) and 1/2 essay. The multiple choice questions can best be described as factoids (IE: What was the court holding in this case?). At least 6/7 questions came from the stories book, so make sure you read it carefully (you can bring it into the exam though). His essay had a word limit of 300 words. Remember, the essay was worth 1/2 the test. The test that is the sole determiner of YOUR GRADE. So 1/2 of your grade in civ pro came from a 300 word essay.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:41 am

spanktheduck wrote:I loved Clermont but I don't think that most people did. The guy is very smart and knows a craplaod about Civ Pro. His final is a joke though (I only had him second semester though). 1/2 multiple choice (hardest fucking ones you will ever take) and 1/2 essay. The multiple choice questions can best be described as factoids (IE: What was the court holding in this case?). At least 6/7 questions came from the stories book, so make sure you read it carefully (you can bring it into the exam though). His essay had a word limit of 300 words. Remember, the essay was worth 1/2 the test. The test that is the sole determiner of YOUR GRADE. So 1/2 of your grade in civ pro came from a 300 word essay.


:shock: :shock: im f-ing wordy as shit. i knew i had to work on it, but ..bla.. lovely.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby woeisme » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:06 am

fsohn wrote:
Mollenkamp: Pretty good. His personality can get a little wearisome, at least to me, in larger doses. On another note, the female contingent of your writing TA group will be awesome.


lol, this is true, if not only for what it implies.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby woeisme » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:06 am

kn6542 wrote:Also, don't ask Hillman if he's on something, even if he tells you that he is.


hahaha

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby kn6542 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:07 am

re: clermont
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profi ... =830699067

edit: oh boo. i guess you have to be in the cornell or ithaca network to view it. oh well. his interest, activities, political views, and religious views are all.....civil procedure.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby spike » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:26 am

oh wow... so much has happened on these boards!

Section F here! 8)

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby neskerdoo » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:27 am

woeisme wrote:
fsohn wrote:
Mollenkamp: Pretty good. His personality can get a little wearisome, at least to me, in larger doses. On another note, the female contingent of your writing TA group will be awesome.


lol, this is true, if not only for what it implies.



yeah, I did a double-take at this...

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:38 am

neskerdoo wrote:
woeisme wrote:
fsohn wrote:
Mollenkamp: Pretty good. His personality can get a little wearisome, at least to me, in larger doses. On another note, the female contingent of your writing TA group will be awesome.


lol, this is true, if not only for what it implies.



yeah, I did a double-take at this...


me confused.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby neskerdoo » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:41 am

panda wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:
woeisme wrote:
fsohn wrote:
Mollenkamp: Pretty good. His personality can get a little wearisome, at least to me, in larger doses. On another note, the female contingent of your writing TA group will be awesome.


lol, this is true, if not only for what it implies.



yeah, I did a double-take at this...


me confused.



oh, you'll figure it out

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby panda » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:43 am

neskerdoo wrote:

oh, you'll figure it out


*ominous music ensues*

come on..
the point was to give us a heads up!

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby danielfgator » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:15 am

Add me to section A!
Tuesdays AND Wednesdays are going to suck...

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby Other25BeforeYou » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:44 am

I just realized that Clermont was the professor who taught the class on Res Judicata when I was at Cornell for ASD. And then I got really excited.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby tucanran » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:33 am

You can add me to section A!

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby como » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:44 am

What's the word on tomorrow night, Shel? Is this happening?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2012

Postby sheltron5000 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:36 am

I'll be there :D

I dunno, it sounded like studymaster was coming. hold on, I'll go check the facebook page.


edited for excessive comma usage.




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