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Rotor wrote:

IzziesGal wrote:

Drake014 wrote:

IzziesGal wrote:Anyone know if joining a state bar association (other than California) will be a red flag when applying for residency status as a 2L?

As long as you meet Boalt's residency requirements I don't understand why it would be a problem. Are you leaving CA after you graduate? That shouldn't matter, I was just curious as to how many fellow Boalts plan on bolting after they get their degrees.

We're planning on staying, as of now. My husband will still be working on his bachelor's out there, and since he is going for IT/comp sci, it's pretty much the best location in the country for career prospects.

Look at it as a risk/reward proposition. What benefit do you get by joining the said State Bar Association today that you would not get should you wait until you graduate? Are those benefits worth risking over $30K that you'd pay in non-resident tuition in the event you got a registrar/residency clerk who is a stickler for the "intent to make it permanent" bit. I've quoted a couple of things from http://registrar.berkeley.edu/Residency/legalinfo.html

Berkeley Registrar's Website wrote:Who is a California Resident? If . . . you want to be classified as a resident for tuition purposes, you must have established your continuous presence in California more than one year immediately preceding the residence determination date for the semester during which you propose to attend the University, and you must have given up any previous residence. You must also present objective evidence that you intend to make California your permanent home . . . .

Establishing Intent to Become a California Resident Indications of your intent to make California your permanent residence can include registering to vote and voting in California elections; [etc., etc.]; licensing for professional practice in California; and the absence of these indications in other states during any period for which you claim California residence. Documentary evidence is required. All relevant indications will be considered in determining your classification. Your intent will be questioned if you return to your prior state of residence when the University is not in session.

The underlined clause is key I think. For while joining another state's bar association may not technically be licensing for professional practice in another state, it could give the person adjudicating your claim reason to reject your application for residency. Just my $1/50th, but I wouldn't risk it.

Drake014 wrote:Well, I'm pursuaded.

Rotor wrote:

Drake014 wrote:Well, I'm pursuaded.

That's what I get for spending my entire adult life arguing with public servants who treat you as if every nickle they grant you is a dime out of their own paycheck. I'm sure the lovely people at UC aren't that way, mind you, but until I get my own determination I'm withholding judgement

Drake014 wrote:
Well, I'm pursuaded.

amyLAchemist wrote:To answer Drake's curiousity, I'll be staying in California after I graduate, and will remain here until my end of days. No moving around the country for me.

From: Christopher Edley <edley@law.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:05:29 -0700
Subject: Budget update
To: Students - 1L <students-1ls@law.berkeley.edu>, Students - 2L
<students-2ls@law.berkeley.edu>

Dear Berkeley Law Student:


I write to update you on the financial situation at the Law School in
light of the on-going budget crisis in California and the consequent
challenges for UC Berkeley. My central message is one of reassurance:
We will continue to offer the best education of any law school on this
or any nearby planet. At this point I foresee few if any budget cuts
that will have material near-term effects on students.


The most significant program consequences to you will likely be some
modest reduction in the number of small-enrollment offerings by adjunct
lecturers, some slowing of the rapid expansion of the faculty we have
pursued in recent years, perhaps some limitations on the scope of
technical support on computer issues, and perhaps a slight reduction in
the caloric content of the free lunches at speaking events.

On the positive side, it now appears likely that we will be able to
follow through with the announcements I made earlier this spring
concerning expansions in the Loan Repayment Assistance Program, more
summer public interest fellowship grants, expansion of career services
counseling, and several other measures. We will continue and expand the
Boalt in D.C. program for a semester of study in Washington, D.C. We
will continue our program of classroom renovations and construction.
The West Terrace will be completed before classes begin. Excavation for
the South Addition will be complete in a few days. Eight new core
faculty members join us this summer, which gets us three-quarters of the
way toward the goal set when I arrived five years ago of a 40% net
increase in the faculty.

Please be clear, however, that the budget situation remains fluid. The
Chancellor and Provost have not yet finalized the campus plans, in part
because the Legislature remains tied in knots. Gordian, it seems. The
Law School is in remarkably sound shape compared with most other campus
units, and compared with most of our peer institutions. There are
several reasons: our strategy of steadily raising tuition closer towards
a benchmark of about 10% below the average of top-10 schools; the $125
million capital campaign has produced successive years of record alumni
contributions; our low dependence on state appropriations, relative to
other campus units, because the state support for the Law School was
disproportionately cut during the recession earlier in the decade; the
relatively small contribution of endowment income in our revenue stream,
relative to other top-10 schools. The last two points mean we are more
insulated than we would otherwise be from sharp state budget cuts and
the Wall Street meltdown. Make no mistake, times will be tight.
However, I simply do not expect that we will face the extraordinary
budget reductions hitting many of our peer schools.

I hope the balance of your summer is both productive and restful.


Sincerely,

Christopher Edley
Dean and Orrick Professor of Law
Boalt Hall, UC Berkeley


--
Christopher Edley, Jr.
The Honorable William H. Orrick, Jr. Distinguished Chair and Dean
Berkeley Law
University of California


--
(Via BlackBerry)

law2012 wrote:Is it common for students to live in Oakland? What is the commute like? Are there any parts of Oakland that are considered safe/parts to definitively avoid? Is any part of Oakland close enough to campus to walk?

TopCat wrote:Son of Cicero and others who might know: How's the area around the Ashby BART/Berkeley Bowl?

worldtraveler wrote:I cannot remember how to log into BearFacts to save my life. Can anybody tell me if it's the same thing I use for my e-mail? Did we set it up ourselves? I'm drawing a complete blank.

Rotor wrote:

TopCat wrote:Son of Cicero and others who might know: How's the area around the Ashby BART/Berkeley Bowl?

My wife and I have some friends on Prince between Shattuck & Telegraph. When we were at ASD we walked around their neighborhood and it was nice. We tried to find something nearby, but nothing matched what we were looking for. The feeling I got was that west of the station was less nice but livable. Like most of the rest of the city, especially south, the further west you go, the more you want to take a good look.

amyLAchemist wrote:Boalt Alum. Woot.

http://www.uspto.gov/main/homepagenews/2009jun19.htm

amyLAchemist wrote:Boalt Alum. Woot.

http://www.uspto.gov/main/homepagenews/2009jun19.htm

amyLAchemist wrote:Boalt Alum. Woot.

http://www.uspto.gov/main/homepagenews/2009jun19.htm

Rotor wrote:

amyLAchemist wrote:Boalt Alum. Woot.

http://www.uspto.gov/main/homepagenews/2009jun19.htm

Suck that SLS (and your USNWR IP law ranking)!

truevines wrote:Does any one of you know if we need to submit any cert/form of medical records, including vaccine records (MMR, Hepatitis B...), TB exams, etc?
Thanks.

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It is still unreal to me that I am going to Berkeley. I still have nightmares that I bombed my LSAT and was trapped in endless postdoc research......

Formerbruin wrote:I wanted to check in. How's everyone feeling right now that you're less than 2 months out from orientation? Summer and sunshine seem to have finally arrived here.

amyLAchemist wrote:I actually read through the materials pretty well, imo, and I saw nothing of immunization records. Anyone else?

Formerbruin wrote:I wanted to check in. How's everyone feeling right now that you're less than 2 months out from orientation? Summer and sunshine seem to have finally arrived here.

Formerbruin wrote:I wanted to check in. How's everyone feeling right now that you're less than 2 months out from orientation? Summer and sunshine seem to have finally arrived here.

unionorganizer02 wrote: (anyone know how far the campus gym is from Boalt Hall?)