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Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:36 pm
by Lawlcat
awesomepossum wrote:
Lawlcat wrote:EBB!

Anyone know how Miller tends to split the MC/essay weighting?



apparently he does it on the fly. I don't REALLY understand it but what he says is that he grades both sections and looks at the curve and figures out what should be worth more. In other words he's more interested in the spread more than anything else.

In any case last year it was about 50/50


Okay, thanks.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:40 am
by tralinds
When do profs usually start posting grades? Do they all wait until the deadline? Starting to get nervous. :(

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:33 am
by Alexandria
No, they don't usually wait. Some semesters I've gotten all but one before the grading deadline (note that grades still get posted after the grading deadline... I think the person posting them gets backed up).

That said, I don't know anyone who has gotten a single grade yet, and I'm a little surprised. Not really surprised there are no 1L grades up (big curved classes), but surprised there aren't some from smaller classes up. 1L year I definitely didn't get my first fall grade until after classes had started back up. But I think 2 of the other sections got a grade before we did.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:05 am
by Go State
Alexandria wrote:No, they don't usually wait. Some semesters I've gotten all but one before the grading deadline (note that grades still get posted after the grading deadline... I think the person posting them gets backed up).

That said, I don't know anyone who has gotten a single grade yet, and I'm a little surprised. Not really surprised there are no 1L grades up (big curved classes), but surprised there aren't some from smaller classes up. 1L year I definitely didn't get my first fall grade until after classes had started back up. But I think 2 of the other sections got a grade before we did.


Do grades post up under unofficial transcript on wolverine access after they are turned in?

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:16 am
by Alexandria
They do post there, but the unofficial transcript page takes a little longer to load than simply going to View My Grades under Enrollment.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:36 am
by Alexandria
Registrar has started posting grades, but don't know if any 1L grades are up yet. I've gotten one back, and I know someone who has gotten one for a different class.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:50 am
by Alexandria
OK, apparently at least one grade is up for one section... probably more.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:09 am
by comedownnine
I got through all of pre-l without creating a tls account, and now, I give up.

Any supplement recommendations, outlines, or other advice for:

Primus for Con Law
Croley for Civ Pro
Frier for Contracts

Feel free to pm if you prefer.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:14 am
by Aeroplane
Alexandria wrote:OK, apparently at least one grade is up for one section... probably more.

You mean a 1L section? Cuz that would be great to hear.

Also, does anyone know if Krier normally waits til the deadline? He gave us a test that was 80% MC and we filled out a Scantron, so there were only 2 short answers per student to actually grade. I have high hopes for that grade rolling in early.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:28 am
by Alexandria
comedownnine wrote:I got through all of pre-l without creating a tls account, and now, I give up.

Any supplement recommendations, outlines, or other advice for:

Primus for Con Law
Croley for Civ Pro
Frier for Contracts

Feel free to pm if you prefer.


I had Primus and Croley. Croley-- just the standard stuff... I used Crunchtime and E&E. Primus-- I usually love supplements, but I used them less in his class than in any other. The rumor is that he doesn't like Chemerinsky, so some people avoided it because of that. I read sections of it, myself, as review while studying for finals. That was it... I didn't find any Gilbert's or anything useful. It's a very clearly organized and well-thought out course, and he's a fantastic teacher.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:29 am
by Alexandria
Aeroplane wrote:
Alexandria wrote:OK, apparently at least one grade is up for one section... probably more.

You mean a 1L section? Cuz that would be great to hear.

Also, does anyone know if Krier normally waits til the deadline? He gave us a test that was 80% MC and we filled out a Scantron, so there were only 2 short answers per student to actually grade. I have high hopes for that grade rolling in early.


Yeah. I think one fall section has crim back, and the summer starters have at least con law back.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:34 am
by Aeroplane
Alexandria wrote:
Aeroplane wrote:
Alexandria wrote:OK, apparently at least one grade is up for one section... probably more.

You mean a 1L section? Cuz that would be great to hear.

Also, does anyone know if Krier normally waits til the deadline? He gave us a test that was 80% MC and we filled out a Scantron, so there were only 2 short answers per student to actually grade. I have high hopes for that grade rolling in early.


Yeah. I think one fall section has crim back, and the summer starters have at least con law back.
Cool. I've been checking obsessively for a couple weeks (I even made my sister check once/hour while I was driving to school yesterday) but this gives me actual hope.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:49 pm
by ryan1234
hey - sorry to intrude on your thread, but I'm a 1L at University of Chicago and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to send me some past exams from the University of Michigan library's website. One of my profs taught there a while ago and it would be great to have some old exams (they aren't up on our site for whatever reason). Anyway, there are two exams located here: http://lexcalibur.lib.law.umich.edu/sea ... +omri&3,,5

Please pm me if you'd be willing to look these up for me! Thank you so much!

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:31 am
by Justice
Want an exam from your visiting professor? Ask your professor.

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Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:50 am
by vyelps
when will they finally put up grades??? I have prospective employers nagging me about them...

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:51 am
by FlightoftheEarls
vyelps wrote:when will they finally put up grades??? I have prospective employers nagging me about them...

Some sections are all/mostly up. All of EFGH went up on friday. Good luck!

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:54 am
by vyelps
FlightoftheEarls wrote:
vyelps wrote:when will they finally put up grades??? I have prospective employers nagging me about them...

Some sections are all/mostly up. All of EFGH went up on friday. Good luck!


Thanks! its frustrating. The anxiety of waiting for grades is slowly changing to general frustration for most of the 1Ls I know. I have friends at other law schools who have had grades out for a week or so and have already gotten interviews or offers.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:22 pm
by FlightoftheEarls
Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:32 pm
by awesomepossum
FlightoftheEarls wrote:Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!



I just asked career services during OCI. I'm sure you can do that now.



top 25 percentile is around a 3.5 or so. dunno about bottom 25.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:29 pm
by charliec9
FlightoftheEarls wrote:Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!


There's an estimated ranking distribution, based on comprehensive data for something like the last ten years, on the clerkship website. It's not even close to exact for the actual per-year ranking, but it'll give you some basis for comparison.

In other news, I'm still waiting on 2. Come on, Michigan, you can do it!

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:58 am
by Go State
charliec9 wrote:
FlightoftheEarls wrote:Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!


There's an estimated ranking distribution, based on comprehensive data for something like the last ten years, on the clerkship website. It's not even close to exact for the actual per-year ranking, but it'll give you some basis for comparison.


Link?

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:22 pm
by Alexandria
Keep in mind, though, that the clerkship data is rank at graduation. And GPAs rise between 1L and 3L. So if that memo tells you your GPA would be X percent at graduation, as a 1L it's probably quite a bit higher than that.

Guy who asked for a link... it's in the clerkships information on the Career Services site. You have to log in to get it.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:42 pm
by VincentChase
Go State wrote:
charliec9 wrote:
FlightoftheEarls wrote:Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!


There's an estimated ranking distribution, based on comprehensive data for something like the last ten years, on the clerkship website. It's not even close to exact for the actual per-year ranking, but it'll give you some basis for comparison.


Link?


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It's under "Class ranking letter" and it's a PDF.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:27 pm
by Go State
VincentChase wrote:
Go State wrote:
charliec9 wrote:
FlightoftheEarls wrote:Does anyone know if there is any sort of resource to kind of give an idea of where in the class rank you've landed? I know the school doesn't rank until after graduation, but is there anyway to tell whereabouts in the class a certain GPA may land a person? Whether that's bottom 1/3, top 1/4, or anywhere besides the projected median?

For the sake of estimations, perhaps GPA guesses for 25th and 75th percentiles? Not trying to put any real grades on here, but trying to figure out in what vicinity I may be sitting based on those two numbers. Thanks!


There's an estimated ranking distribution, based on comprehensive data for something like the last ten years, on the clerkship website. It's not even close to exact for the actual per-year ranking, but it'll give you some basis for comparison.


Link?


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It's under "Class ranking letter" and it's a PDF.


Thanks.

Re: Michigan 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:46 am
by vyelps
anyone have pritchard for civ pro? if so, can you provide advice?