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Post by TheWire » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:18 pm

I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American. He's visited his family/gone on back to Africa 10 times. Does this justify checking the African American box?

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Re: URM AA

Post by ace0260 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:22 pm

here we go

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Re: URM AA

Post by superserial » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:24 pm

no.

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Re: URM AA

Post by APimpNamedSlickback » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:30 pm

so "he" is apparently a well-traveled white dude with ancestors that had an advantageous position within the apartheid system. clearly, if your "friend" doesn't qualify, no one does!


seriously though, i think the application language precludes him from checking that box. this seems like an excellent way to get c&f pwned, although i'm not quite sure how these things work.

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Re: URM AA

Post by 20121109 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:33 pm

Anxiously looking forward to hopefully another "URM Performance in LS" thread...

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Re: URM AA

Post by kalvano » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:24 am

I will pay your friend $27.32 to check that box if he invites me to be there when he introduces himself in person to the school.

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Re: URM AA

Post by pjarron » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:32 am

No lol, please stop, why do we have to have a new urm aa thread everyday.

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Re: URM AA

Post by Helmholtz » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:34 am

Tell him to check it.

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Re: URM AA

Post by Tanicius » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:51 am

Helmholtz wrote:Tell him to check it.
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Re: URM AA

Post by TheWire » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:29 am

honestly tho?

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Re: URM AA

Post by Gwen » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:32 am

Ask LSAC

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Re: URM AA

Post by TheWire » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:35 am

he is African American

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Re: URM AA

Post by newyorker88 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:29 am

TheWire wrote:I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American.
No he is not. African American is a term given to blacks in the united states who are decendants of slaves brought over here during the middle passage NOT immigrants from africa.

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Re: URM AA

Post by mallard » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:31 am

He should check Jamaican, cause ja makin' us crazy.

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Re: URM AA

Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:32 am

newyorker88 wrote:
TheWire wrote:I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American.
No he is not. African American is a term given to blacks in the united states who are decendants of slaves brought over here during the middle passage NOT immigrants from africa.
It's funny how outsiders don't get this. Though what's even funnier is when the opposite happens, like when I saw CNN refer to a story about an "African-American" woman... in England.

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Re: URM AA

Post by Gwen » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:33 am

mallard wrote:He should check Jamaican, cause ja makin' us crazy.
As a person with Jamaican ancestry, I take offense to this comment actually i lol'd irl

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Re: URM AA

Post by fphoenix85 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:52 am

newyorker88 wrote:
TheWire wrote:I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American.
No he is not. African American is a term given to blacks in the united states who are decendants of slaves brought over here during the middle passage NOT immigrants from africa.
So Obama's not African American?

What about Asian Americans? When did they need to be here by to count? Or Irish Americans?

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Re: URM AA

Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:58 am

fphoenix85 wrote:
newyorker88 wrote:
TheWire wrote:I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American.
No he is not. African American is a term given to blacks in the united states who are decendants of slaves brought over here during the middle passage NOT immigrants from africa.
So Obama's not African American?

What about Asian Americans? When did they need to be here by to count? Or Irish Americans?
Obama is, because he's black.

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Re: URM AA

Post by rw2264 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:21 am

african american implies some sort of experience as a black person in the united states. that identity traditionally belongs to people descended from african slaves. it is, however, extended to members of the black community no matter what their ancestry because of the shared history and reality of black oppression in the united states. your friend is not african american... he is white. the question is about race, not nationality.

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Re: URM AA

Post by awesomepossum » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:29 am

fphoenix85 wrote:
newyorker88 wrote:
TheWire wrote:I'm posting this one for a friend...He is originally from South Africa. He is not black but is technically African American.
No he is not. African American is a term given to blacks in the united states who are decendants of slaves brought over here during the middle passage NOT immigrants from africa.
So Obama's not African American?

What about Asian Americans? When did they need to be here by to count? Or Irish Americans?

Uh oh!!!! My ancestors didn't come over with the railroad making people!

I've been LYING all this time! I'm....I'm........what the fuck am I??????????


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Re: URM AA

Post by awesomepossum » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:32 am

BTW, here's how Kodak, that great definer of race defines African American.

African-American - A U.S. citizen having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

so....by that definition you could be a recent immigrant from Africa who became a US Citizen...but you would have to be black.

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Re: URM AA

Post by prezidentv8 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:36 am

awesomepossum wrote:BTW, here's how Kodak, that great definer of race defines African American.

African-American - A U.S. citizen having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

so....by that definition you could be a recent immigrant from Africa who became a US Citizen...but you would have to be black.
Kodak????????

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Re: URM AA

Post by awesomepossum » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:39 am

Hahaha...yeah...they have a list of definitions that they use for suppliers. I guess they want more minority owned suppliers or some such thing.

I'm sure there are some better ones out there, but I'm lazy and that seemed like a decent one.

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Re: URM AA

Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:40 am

That basically is the definition, yes.

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Re: URM AA

Post by lawhawk » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:46 am

rw2264 wrote:african american implies some sort of experience as a black person in the united states. that identity traditionally belongs to people descended from african slaves. it is, however, extended to members of the black community no matter what their ancestry because of the shared history and reality of black oppression in the united states. your friend is not african american... he is white. the question is about race, not nationality.

This is probably correct. However, since they don't ask for color I would check the box. If they asked for African American/black then no, but if just African American then yes.

They can't assume you understand AA equates to Black American. If they meant that they should write "black american".

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