Disclose summary offense on application?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:35 pm
I'm looking for some advice as to whether I should disclose a "summary offense-disorderly conduct" on my law school applications. I received the citation in Pa, where apparently a summary offense is only considered to be a criminal offense if I went to jail (which I didn't). Here's my story...
Last March my intoxicated buddy and I urinated in an elevator at Penn State. The following morning our friend who we were staying with had officers show up with pictures of us going to his room after urinating in the elevator. We were gone by then, but our buddy called us and told us they were fining him, and he might be evicted from his apartment if we didn't call the cop. My friend insisted this happens all the time, and that I would just be fined and undergo no criminal proceedings...
Not wanting to hang my buddy out to dry, I called the cop and spoke with him. He too insisted there would be no criminal record, and that I would merely pay a fine and it would be "as if it never happened". I was fully cooperative, gave the officer my information , and within a few days received a citation and a district court summons.
I called the officer back and he again insisted I just had to pay the fine and it would be "as if it never happened". So I pled guilty (which I'm horribly regretting), and paid the fine.
I asked a lawyer whether I would have to reveal a summary-offense on any job or law school applications, and he said "no, a summary offense is not a criminal conviction in Pa". I also found this on-line "Under Pennsylvania law, conviction records for summary offenses "shall not be used in consideration of an application for a license, certificate, registration or permit" 18 PA Code § 9124
I'm just concerned that if I don't disclose the information on law-school applications I could be screwed when applying for the Bar...where a deeper background check may reveal the citation. This is the only non-traffic citation I've ever received, and I've been extremely careful to avoid trouble (and not get so drunk) since. The whole experience has only further motivated me to pursue law in order to protect ignoramuses like myself. I was wondering if anybody had any experience with anything like this, or any advice as to whether I should disclose the citation or not...
Last March my intoxicated buddy and I urinated in an elevator at Penn State. The following morning our friend who we were staying with had officers show up with pictures of us going to his room after urinating in the elevator. We were gone by then, but our buddy called us and told us they were fining him, and he might be evicted from his apartment if we didn't call the cop. My friend insisted this happens all the time, and that I would just be fined and undergo no criminal proceedings...
Not wanting to hang my buddy out to dry, I called the cop and spoke with him. He too insisted there would be no criminal record, and that I would merely pay a fine and it would be "as if it never happened". I was fully cooperative, gave the officer my information , and within a few days received a citation and a district court summons.
I called the officer back and he again insisted I just had to pay the fine and it would be "as if it never happened". So I pled guilty (which I'm horribly regretting), and paid the fine.
I asked a lawyer whether I would have to reveal a summary-offense on any job or law school applications, and he said "no, a summary offense is not a criminal conviction in Pa". I also found this on-line "Under Pennsylvania law, conviction records for summary offenses "shall not be used in consideration of an application for a license, certificate, registration or permit" 18 PA Code § 9124
I'm just concerned that if I don't disclose the information on law-school applications I could be screwed when applying for the Bar...where a deeper background check may reveal the citation. This is the only non-traffic citation I've ever received, and I've been extremely careful to avoid trouble (and not get so drunk) since. The whole experience has only further motivated me to pursue law in order to protect ignoramuses like myself. I was wondering if anybody had any experience with anything like this, or any advice as to whether I should disclose the citation or not...