The Ideal Law School Laptop

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby ubermensch » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:27 am

dood, I <3 you. And coolkatz. And vut. And this thread.

So full of win. :D

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Lizface killah » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:28 am

ubermensch wrote:Just ordered my T400! w00t.

Now the wait begins... :|

EDIT: Does the reimbursement for price drop still apply if you used the cpp program?


Ooo update us when you get it. This is one that I've been comparing with the Macbook Pro.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby enygma » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:41 am

i just wanted to say that with my new SSD in my MBP i can go from having the computer off to checking my e-mail in firefox in less than 15 seconds. it's amazing.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby hoffb86 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:45 am

Lizface killah wrote:
ubermensch wrote:Just ordered my T400! w00t.

Now the wait begins... :|

EDIT: Does the reimbursement for price drop still apply if you used the cpp program?


Ooo update us when you get it. This is one that I've been comparing with the Macbook Pro.


I compared the T400 to the macbook pro and went with the macbook. personal preference in the end though, both are solid computers. I have owned 3 lenovo's, and all were a solid product.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Lizface killah » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:45 am

enygma wrote:i just wanted to say that with my new SSD in my MBP i can go from having the computer off to checking my e-mail in firefox in less than 15 seconds. it's amazing.


That is shiny.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby enygma » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:48 am

betasteve wrote:
enygma wrote:i just wanted to say that with my new SSD in my MBP i can go from having the computer off to checking my e-mail in firefox in less than 15 seconds. it's amazing.

I hate you a little. I will be getting a new MBP, but it won't be SSD.


you've got to learn to embrace your debt, steve. learn to love it.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby misteranthro » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:33 pm

This came out today regarding the Windows 7 Upgrade Program. If you haven't recently bought a computer, it looks like it's going to be $49.99 to upgrade to Home Premium and $99 for Professional until July 11th. The article doesn't detail the specifics of how companies are dealing with recent purchases though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/bs_nm/us_microsoft_windows

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby lucydog » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:08 pm

misteranthro wrote:This came out today regarding the Windows 7 Upgrade Program. If you haven't recently bought a computer, it looks like it's going to be $49.99 to upgrade to Home Premium and $99 for Professional until July 11th. The article doesn't detail the specifics of how companies are dealing with recent purchases though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/bs_nm/us_microsoft_windows



Computer makers will also be giving out cheap Win7 upgrades to those who purchase qualifying Vista computers after tomorrow.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby enygma » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:18 pm

lucydog wrote:
misteranthro wrote:This came out today regarding the Windows 7 Upgrade Program. If you haven't recently bought a computer, it looks like it's going to be $49.99 to upgrade to Home Premium and $99 for Professional until July 11th. The article doesn't detail the specifics of how companies are dealing with recent purchases though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/bs_nm/us_microsoft_windows



Computer makers will also be giving out cheap Win7 upgrades to those who purchase qualifying Vista computers after tomorrow.


and it'll more likely be cheaper than all that if you just buy it through your school.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby misteranthro » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:23 pm

lucydog wrote:
misteranthro wrote:This came out today regarding the Windows 7 Upgrade Program. If you haven't recently bought a computer, it looks like it's going to be $49.99 to upgrade to Home Premium and $99 for Professional until July 11th. The article doesn't detail the specifics of how companies are dealing with recent purchases though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/bs_nm/us_microsoft_windows



Computer makers will also be giving out cheap Win7 upgrades to those who purchase qualifying Vista computers after tomorrow.


Most companies will actually be giving free Windows 7 Upgrades for computers purchased tomorrow and after, but I am not sure how they are dealing with recent purchases (June 1-25th). At Dell, the sales rep said my June 12th order would be covered under the free program. Other sites have said the 26th is the first day. Microsoft isn't charging the makers for the free upgrades, which makes me think that the date might be more flexible with other manufacturers too.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby ubermensch » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:54 am

Does anyone know why the Lenovo thinkpads are significantly more expensive than Lenovo's other laptops?
I was checking out laptops today and saw some non-thinkpad lenovos at a local store (with similar processors, ram, and hard drives) for a fraction of the price of a thinkpad.
Someone convince me to not cancel my t400 order.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby vut » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:03 am

ubermensch wrote:Does anyone know why the Lenovo thinkpads are significantly more expensive than Lenovo's other laptops?
I was checking out laptops today and saw some non-thinkpad lenovos at a local store (with similar processors, ram, and hard drives) for a fraction of the price of a thinkpad.
Someone convince me to not cancel my t400 order.


The T-series have the magnesium roll-cage design, shock-resistant hard drive and built-in security chip -- all of which make these machines rugged, durable and secure. The processors and RAM used are also top of the line stuff.

I assume that you looked at the IdeaPads or similar models. Those are more like entertainment machines, so the features have a more multimedia focus. Since they are also designed to be trendy, the machines are physically more fragile than the Thinkpads. I think their design is frail and bloated in comparison.

Furthermore, it's actually more expensive if you try to match the processor of your T400. The speed may look similar, but not the cache size and clock frequency. That's a lot of geek talk, but basically, the machines you saw at the store probably use weaker processors. What machines did you see specifically, and what were their prices?

Ultimately, the T400 is rugged, minimalistic and powerful. I think you'll fall in love with it when you actually have it in your hands.

Just my $0.02.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby ubermensch » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:21 am

Thanks again, vut.

The only lenovo that I could identify was an X301 which was $1700. The cheaper models didn't have model numbers and ranged in size from 15.4 inches to 10 inches, and were priced from about 350-600 dollars.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby dholyghozt » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:58 am

...so just ordered a windows 7 upgrade from bestbuy for 49.99 and checked lenovo's website
...the free windows 7 upgrade is not available for Vista Home Basic...so you basically have to upgrde at least to Home Premium for $42 to qualify...which is a bummer

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby UNC2009 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:10 am

dholyghozt wrote:...so just ordered a windows 7 upgrade from bestbuy for 49.99 and checked lenovo's website
...the free windows 7 upgrade is not available for Vista Home Basic...so you basically have to upgrde at least to Home Premium for $42 to qualify...which is a bummer


Which Windows 7 is everyone going for? Home Premium, Professional or Ultimate. Do we need anything more than Home Premium?

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Belili » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:17 am

What do you guys think about this deal?

"Lenovo T400: 14.1" (diagonal) WXGA 1280 x 800 resolution widescreen display, Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 (2.4 GHz), 2GB RAM (two 1GB SO-DIMMs), 160GB SATA 7200RPM Hard drive, DVD+/-RW drive, Gigabit Ethernet, Intel 802.11a/g/n Wireless card, Internal 56k modem, Integrated Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics, 3 USB ports, IEEE 1394 FireWire 400 port, VGA port, headphone/line out, integrated microphone/line-in, Bluetooth 2.0, Built-in Webcam, Fingerprint reader, Cable lock slot, 9-cell Primary Battery, Windows Vista Business, 3 year on-site limited warranty with ProtectionPlus, Wt.: Starting at 5.5 lbs"

From my school. Listed at $1385.

They say they can put in custom orders... so I assume I could tweak that if something's not right.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby dholyghozt » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:27 am

Belili wrote:What do you guys think about this deal?

"Lenovo T400: 14.1" (diagonal) WXGA 1280 x 800 resolution widescreen display, Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 (2.4 GHz), 2GB RAM (two 1GB SO-DIMMs), 160GB SATA 7200RPM Hard drive, DVD+/-RW drive, Gigabit Ethernet, Intel 802.11a/g/n Wireless card, Internal 56k modem, Integrated Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics, 3 USB ports, IEEE 1394 FireWire 400 port, VGA port, headphone/line out, integrated microphone/line-in, Bluetooth 2.0, Built-in Webcam, Fingerprint reader, Cable lock slot, 9-cell Primary Battery, Windows Vista Business, 3 year on-site limited warranty with ProtectionPlus, Wt.: Starting at 5.5 lbs"

From my school. Listed at $1385.

They say they can put in custom orders... so I assume I could tweak that if something's not right.


just quickly browsing the specs that's too expensive

as others have pointed out before...this site is great

http://www.lenovo.com/cpp
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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Belili » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:14 pm

That saves about $100 - the warranty is the big killer (~$300 for 3 years on-site/accidental coverage).

I'm wondering if that's a bit too risk-averse. But I am a clutz and all :|

Or I can upgrade to this for $1500

" Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
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Genuine Windows Vista Business 64
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Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD with vPro
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4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
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UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
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160 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
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Intel Turbo Memory 2GB
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CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
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Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
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Integrated Bluetooth PAN
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Intel WiFi Link 5100 (AGN) with My WiFi Technology
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Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable
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9 cell Li-Ion Battery
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Country Pack North America with Line cord & 65W AC adapter
Services and software
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3 Year On Site Upgrade with 3 Year ThinkPad Protection
"

Idk - I hate buying computers... and cars... and anything expensive.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby enygma » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:22 pm

as a general rule of thumb, extended warrantys are rip-offs. a long time ago i read that 99% of hardware failures within 5 years occur in the first year. almost all laptops come with one year standard. so let's say you're putting down $300 extra on a $1200 laptop. you'd only come out ahead if there was a greater than 25% chance that the laptop would irreparably break in the two extra years. if only a hard drive fails, you lose, if only a processor blows, you lose. you only win if the laptop completely breaks and you get a whole new one. even then you don't really win because the current value of the replacement will be far lower than the initial $1200 you paid.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby LawandOrder » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:25 pm

vut wrote:
The T-series have the magnesium roll-cage design, shock-resistant hard drive and built-in security chip -- all of which make these machines rugged, durable and secure. The processors and RAM used are also top of the line stuff.



That is affirmative.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby boca323 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:09 pm

whatever you do, DON'T buy a mac book. God those are gay.

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Lizface killah » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:13 pm

boca323 wrote:whatever you do, DON'T buy a mac book. God those are gay.


What do you have against gay computers?

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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby enygma » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:14 pm

boca323 wrote:whatever you do, DON'T buy a mac book. God those are gay.


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Re: The Ideal Law School Laptop

Postby Lizface killah » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:15 pm

enygma wrote:
boca323 wrote:whatever you do, DON'T buy a mac book. God those are gay.


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I have to admit, Mac still has a better ass.




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