Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby nehusker » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:51 pm

Nebraska fell clear out of the top 100, due to an error in data. Not sure which end this occurred on but very unfortunate!

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby sbalive » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:56 pm

nehusker wrote:Nebraska fell clear out of the top 100, due to an error in data. Not sure which end this occurred on but very unfortunate!


Where's the source for this info? I'm curious.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby k_unl » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:13 pm

betasteve wrote:
swheat wrote:These 2010 rankings are active on the USNWR site, btw....

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+2

Anyone know if the data online is more expansive than the data in the magazine?
USNEWS claims they do rankings from the median numbers but only publish the middle 50... Perhaps same with salary info??


I received an e-mail from the assistant dean:

If you follow the U.S. News and World Reports rankings, you might have noticed that the most recent ranking places the University of Nebraska College of Law much lower than it has been in recent years. Before I go any further, I want to alert you to the fact that this ranking is wrong and was based on incorrect data used by U.S. News.

Last year, Nebraska ranked in the top tier of law schools in the U.S. News rankings. U.S. News recognizes that it used incorrect data in ranking the University of Nebraska College of Law this year, and we are working to get an estimate of where we would have been if the correct data had been used. We have no doubt the estimate will place us in the top tier again.

Unfortunately, despite the mistake, the ranking has been published. But, again, our ranking in that list is simply wrong. And while we continue to work with U.S. News to get more information on our corrected, estimated ranking, we want you to know the University of Nebraska College of Law is the same great place it was last year – and that we will be next year.

We understand how this incorrect information could be confusing and very much encourage those with questions to feel free to contact us. As always, we would be happy to personally answer any questions you may have about these rankings or other questions at the Law College.



Very truly yours,
Sarah Gloden, J.D.
Assistant Dean
402-472-1526
gloden@unl.edu

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby RVP11 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:14 pm

betasteve wrote:
swheat wrote:These 2010 rankings are active on the USNWR site, btw....

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+2

Anyone know if the data online is more expansive than the data in the magazine?
USNEWS claims they do rankings from the median numbers but only publish the middle 50... Perhaps same with salary info??


I've been telling people USNWR only counted actual medians for about a year now, and I always "got told" that they average the 25th/75th percentiles. :x

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby animalcrkrs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:16 pm

betasteve wrote:
swheat wrote:These 2010 rankings are active on the USNWR site, btw....

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+2

Anyone know if the data online is more expansive than the data in the magazine?
USNEWS claims they do rankings from the median numbers but only publish the middle 50... Perhaps same with salary info??


I have an online subscription and I think it is the same info as in magazine, and then some. I like the online better anyway. You can also export the data from the online into pdf and other programs if I remember correctly.

From the website:

"Highlights of the Premium Online Edition:
Comprehensive Rankings. Review ratings that are not available in any guidebook or anywhere else on the Web
Customized Searches. Find programs that reflect your career goals and interests
Expansive Directory Information. Access extensive and up-to-date school profile information
New Trend Tables. Uncover the latest discipline-specific school and career trends
Improved Navigation and Design. Find the right program quickly and easily
Unlimited Access. Log on from anywhere, at any time "

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:19 pm

Now that Michigan is in the T6, we need a celebration.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Mr. Matlock » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:27 pm

k_unl wrote:
betasteve wrote:
swheat wrote:These 2010 rankings are active on the USNWR site, btw....

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+2

Anyone know if the data online is more expansive than the data in the magazine?
USNEWS claims they do rankings from the median numbers but only publish the middle 50... Perhaps same with salary info??


I received an e-mail from the assistant dean:

If you follow the U.S. News and World Reports rankings, you might have noticed that the most recent ranking places the University of Nebraska College of Law much lower than it has been in recent years. Before I go any further, I want to alert you to the fact that this ranking is wrong and was based on incorrect data used by U.S. News.

Last year, Nebraska ranked in the top tier of law schools in the U.S. News rankings. U.S. News recognizes that it used incorrect data in ranking the University of Nebraska College of Law this year, and we are working to get an estimate of where we would have been if the correct data had been used. We have no doubt the estimate will place us in the top tier again.

Unfortunately, despite the mistake, the ranking has been published. But, again, our ranking in that list is simply wrong. And while we continue to work with U.S. News to get more information on our corrected, estimated ranking, we want you to know the University of Nebraska College of Law is the same great place it was last year – and that we will be next year.

We understand how this incorrect information could be confusing and very much encourage those with questions to feel free to contact us. As always, we would be happy to personally answer any questions you may have about these rankings or other questions at the Law College.



Very truly yours,
Sarah Gloden, J.D.
Assistant Dean
402-472-1526
gloden@unl.edu

:roll: So the assistant dean emailed you to say her and the other morons in UNL admissions supplied US News with faulty data?

Great. Feel free to pop in with any more updates.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby animalcrkrs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:29 pm

betasteve wrote:
animalcrkrs wrote:
betasteve wrote:
swheat wrote:These 2010 rankings are active on the USNWR site, btw....

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+2

Anyone know if the data online is more expansive than the data in the magazine?
USNEWS claims they do rankings from the median numbers but only publish the middle 50... Perhaps same with salary info??


I have an online subscription and I think it is the same info as in magazine, and then some. I like the online better anyway. You can also export the data from the online into pdf and other programs if I remember correctly.

From the website:

"Highlights of the Premium Online Edition:
Comprehensive Rankings. Review ratings that are not available in any guidebook or anywhere else on the Web
Customized Searches. Find programs that reflect your career goals and interests
Expansive Directory Information. Access extensive and up-to-date school profile information
New Trend Tables. Uncover the latest discipline-specific school and career trends
Improved Navigation and Design. Find the right program quickly and easily
Unlimited Access. Log on from anywhere, at any time "

Do you get more statistical data? I.E. medians, or anything of that nature? And can you export data into excel?



You can only PDF export from what I can tell.
I don't see that you get more granular admissions data than the 25-75s, but they have a lot of stuff about joint programs, extracurricular involvement, cost to attend breakdown, faculty data etc. that I don't think from my memory of the print edition is in there.
Plus tons of info about the libraries and tech capabilities, which is as we all know a CORE part of another select set of rankings...

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby animalcrkrs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:32 pm

I do have a q though since I am answering some :)
How are the speciality rankings done? Can't find that explanation anywhere.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Mr. Matlock » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:34 pm

animalcrkrs wrote:I do have a q though since I am answering some :)
How are the speciality rankings done? Can't find that explanation anywhere.

+1

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby animalcrkrs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:35 pm

Nevermind! Found it!

"These specialty rankings are based solely on votes by legal educators who nominated up to 15 schools in each field. Legal educators chosen were a selection of those listed in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Law Teachers 2005-2006 as currently teaching. In the case of clinical and legal writing, the nominations were made by directors or members of the clinical and legal writing programs. Those programs that received the most nominations appear."


This seems dumb.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:46 pm

animalcrkrs wrote:Nevermind! Found it!

"These specialty rankings are based solely on votes by legal educators who nominated up to 15 schools in each field. Legal educators chosen were a selection of those listed in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Law Teachers 2005-2006 as currently teaching. In the case of clinical and legal writing, the nominations were made by directors or members of the clinical and legal writing programs. Those programs that received the most nominations appear."


This seems dumb.


That's the reason that people with any sense don't pay attention to them.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby barefootmanner » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:49 pm

Sixigan wrote:Now that Michigan is in the T6, we need a celebration.


Wait. What?

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby de5igual » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:50 pm

Sixigan wrote:Now that Michigan is in the T6, we need a celebration.


NINEIGAN NINEIGAN NINEIGAN!

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:56 pm

I'm pretty sure Michigan is T6 now, according to the latest USNews rankings.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby barefootmanner » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:57 pm

Sixigan wrote:I'm pretty sure Michigan is T6 now, according to the latest USNews rankings.


I'm pretty sure you're a moron. Or you read numbers upside-down.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:58 pm

barefootmanner wrote:
Sixigan wrote:I'm pretty sure Michigan is T6 now, according to the latest USNews rankings.


I'm pretty sure you're a moron.


We'll see when I get my market pay of 190K$, starting in NYC biglaw.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby barefootmanner » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:59 pm

Sixigan wrote:
barefootmanner wrote:
Sixigan wrote:I'm pretty sure Michigan is T6 now, according to the latest USNews rankings.


I'm pretty sure you're a moron.


We'll see when I get my market pay of 190K$, starting in NYC biglaw.


What does that have to do with an inability to read rankings?

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:00 pm

Hey sorry you know. I think the rankings clearly state that Michigan is T6.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby ejf11 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:00 pm

barefootmanner wrote:
Sixigan wrote:
barefootmanner wrote:
Sixigan wrote:I'm pretty sure Michigan is T6 now, according to the latest USNews rankings.


I'm pretty sure you're a moron.


We'll see when I get my market pay of 190K$, starting in NYC biglaw.


What does that have to do with an inability to read rankings?


This guy is going to Michigan and cannot read the rankings?!?! Typical Mich student. Upside down dyslexia???

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby ejf11 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:02 pm

We'll see when I get my market pay of 190K$, starting in NYC biglaw.[/quote]

What does that have to do with an inability to read rankings?[/quote]

This guy is going to Michigan and cannot read the rankings?!?! Typical Mich student. Upside down dyslexia???[/quote]Duke

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Berkeley
6. Chicago
8. Penn
9. Michigan moron


Just out of curiosity, what are your numbers? Its hard for me to believe you are going to Michigan and can't read the rankings.
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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:03 pm

I dont know what upside down dislexia. All I do know is that michigan is now T6.

And I suffer from a similar-sounding ailment: Sexlexia.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby beepermad » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:03 pm

Sixigan wrote:I dont know what upside down dislexia. All I do know is that michigan is now T6.

And I suffer from a similar-sounding ailment: Sexlexia.


#9, pumpkin.

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Re: Official 2010 US News Law School Rankings

Postby Sixigan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:05 pm

Nope. pretty sure michigan is T6. Havent you seen the rankings?




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