HarlandBassett wrote: theghostofDrewTate wrote:
johnnyutah wrote:Seriously. I'm above median at t-14, and after 100s of apps still have yet to get a single interview. It's fuckin' rough out there.
Good luck, keep working at it. I graduated a few years ago into a robust market with very little debt, and I thank God everyday for how lucky I am to have a job. But you're right, for someone with no experience who strikes out in OCI, it's pretty bad out there. It's not just a supply side problem, demand for US legal services has fallen off a cliff - I see some moderate recovery, but not a strong recovery right now.
0L asking here, but do most of the ppl who strike out during OCI or end up in the bottom 1/3 at T14s come straight from undergrad (i.e. no work experience)
I think work experience can help, if you have something on your resume to talk about, especially if it is decent business experience (including, but not limited to finance, accounting, consulting, etc.), I give you an extra bump. But I'm just one interviewer and as a lowly associate, my input means next to nothing. Someone who majored in English might give English majors a similar bump. My best advice is to not be below median at a T14 unless it's Harvard (don't know enough about Y or S to give you any dish there, but you'd probably be safe as long as you didn't drool on yourself or defecate in your pants during the interview). I know plenty of unemployed Duke, GULC, Northwestern, Chicago and Michigan grads and I think there is an even distribution of folks with work experience and folks straight from UG with respect to the people I know in that boat. I was talking to one of my co-workers in NY who said out of every HLS couple he knows, at least one of the people in each couple has been laid off. I think things are turning, as M&A is heating back up, but it's still a jungle out there. Get good grades. That first job can play a really big role in charting your career course and bringing your debt down to a reasonable level.