Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

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Re: Research job prospects and the profession BEFORE law school

Postby law_mama » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:33 pm

smalltown wrote:You'll be able to find a job most of the time in the outposts of America. Take Wyoming, for example. There are literally not enough attorneys in the state. They are having real trouble just fulfilling people's rights to due process because they can't find enough lawyers to defend the people who need it, and similarly on the prosecutorial side they need quality people. There are lots of downsides, like it being, well, an outpost, and it's cold, and there isn't much to do, and it's cold, and there isn't a ton of culture. But the school there is very cheap, the energy economy there is booming and cost of living is quite low. So your money, which won't be a lot, seems like more. States like this are insulated, in terms of graduates from outside schools coming in, and also with highly influential governmental positions filled by state school grads. So if you can handle the downsides, it could be a good place to look.

And if you can't find a job as an attorney in Wyoming, the McDonald's in Douglas is offering $15 an hour.


Sorry, but I can't resist...
For those of you who have never been to wyoming...I wouldn't try it. I would rather live in a cardboard box and eat stale bread from a dumpster before I would turn to THAT.
IMHO...wyoming is one of the few states in this country that I wish would dissolve itself from the map.
And I won't even get started on the legal system. Its run like a damn five and dime. It makes my physically ill to think about it.
Second to Florida.

Sorry, but its true.

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby law_mama » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:39 pm

..oh, and...

I have to find humor in this...its rather ironic.
Everyone talks about how you have to be in the TOP of your class to get a good job and some even claim you have to be in the TOP of the TOP schools to even GET a job. But something that I think everyone is missing is...SOMEONE has to be at the bottom of the class, no? ESPECIALLY when most schools grade on a curve, right?
Quit fooling yourself, and quit being paranoid about getting a job.
If nothing else, stick a sign in your yard that says "Law Office" :) I don't think you're going to have a hard time finding a "job".

Maybe not the one you WANT, but we will all get jobs, im confident.

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby yqsong » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:43 pm

bump

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby legalese_retard » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:47 pm

More articles/opinions to read BEFORE going to law school. Most of them are citing the same article, but I wanted to demonstrate the endorsement of tips from different law blogs (not just JDU or Temporary Attorney):

"You chose law school for a reason" - The National Jurist Blog
http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/y ... ool-reason

"You (and 60,000 Others) Have Taken the LSAT. Now Read This." - WSJ Law Blog
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/11/18/you ... read-this/

"Excellent advice for anyone considering law school" - Law Prof Law Blog
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/adjunc ... chool.html

"Is Anyone Hiring Now?" - The National Law Jurist Magazine
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cypress ... t0909/#/32

"An Open Letter To Dean Richard "The Slimeball" Matasar" - Temporary Attorney Blog
http://temporaryattorney.blogspot.com/2 ... eball.html

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby katjust » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:01 pm

Just to the person insulting Wyoming before F U. Wyoming is awesome. I'm glad you won't be there.

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby Sauer Grapes » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:22 pm

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby bahama » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:07 pm

Jobs are scarce and the econ sucks for just about every profession not just law.

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Re: Research job prospects and the profession BEFORE law school

Postby A.Taarabt7 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:22 pm

Snooker wrote:To be realistic, most good professions have these issues: low starting salaries, hard to get your foot in the door, crushing hours at the "elite" level. From my experience in health care, I can tell you a medical technologist* takes two years to train, half fail to get jobs, and those who get them will earn in the mid-30s. Many have college degrees. Nurses can make good money, especially if specialized, but the stress they're under conjures stories of biglaw (except that demented patients occasionally assault them), and they burn out and totally leave the profession at alarming rates. I don't know as many physician assistants, but if it's anything like nursing, it's a shitty prospect as well.

Doctors require 4 years of med school, and then your starting salary is a princely $40,000 (2/3 of law), which we call "residency". If a Doctor does residency for 3 years, then works for 100k for 3 years, he'd have made 220k to pay his debts. A lawyer starting at 55k for 2 years, making 60k another 2, and 65k another 2 will have made $365k over the six years - 50% more than the doctor, with 2/3 the debt!

When I bring up the trials and tribulations of lawyers, health care people LAUGH at me. Put it in perspective. Lawyers, even TTT grads, are social elites. Any median student at a JD institution will out-earn, by around 15%, the median student of a similarly ranked MBA program. But the lawyer unemployment rate rarely hits 1%, and when it does, we call it a recession.

What does this tell us about the legal profession? First, half of you are morons for attending TTT schools charging 40k a year when there's plenty of schools charging 10-15k at the TTT level. Second, our attraction to the legal profession has made us a bunch of whiny whores who don't know a good deal when we have one.



*Anyone who operates medical equipment on behalf of a doctor, especially in medical imaging.



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Re: Research job prospects and the profession BEFORE law school

Postby xiao_long » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:06 pm

Snooker wrote:To be realistic, most good professions have these issues: low starting salaries, hard to get your foot in the door, crushing hours at the "elite" level. From my experience in health care, I can tell you a medical technologist* takes two years to train, half fail to get jobs, and those who get them will earn in the mid-30s. Many have college degrees. Nurses can make good money, especially if specialized, but the stress they're under conjures stories of biglaw (except that demented patients occasionally assault them), and they burn out and totally leave the profession at alarming rates. I don't know as many physician assistants, but if it's anything like nursing, it's a shitty prospect as well.

Doctors require 4 years of med school, and then your starting salary is a princely $40,000 (2/3 of law), which we call "residency". If a Doctor does residency for 3 years, then works for 100k for 3 years, he'd have made 220k to pay his debts. A lawyer starting at 55k for 2 years, making 60k another 2, and 65k another 2 will have made $365k over the six years - 50% more than the doctor, with 2/3 the debt!

When I bring up the trials and tribulations of lawyers, health care people LAUGH at me. Put it in perspective. Lawyers, even TTT grads, are social elites. Any median student at a JD institution will out-earn, by around 15%, the median student of a similarly ranked MBA program. But the lawyer unemployment rate rarely hits 1%, and when it does, we call it a recession.

What does this tell us about the legal profession? First, half of you are morons for attending TTT schools charging 40k a year when there's plenty of schools charging 10-15k at the TTT level. Second, our attraction to the legal profession has made us a bunch of whiny whores who don't know a good deal when we have one.



*Anyone who operates medical equipment on behalf of a doctor, especially in medical imaging.


You're excluding the fact that for the class of 2014, just under 60 percent of all law school graduates became lawyers. I'm sure all the unemployed/underemployed law graduates would love to think they are part of the "social elite", but when you have a six-figure negative net worth without a job as a lawyer, it's might be hard to feel "elitist".

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Re: Websites to Research Before Going to Law School

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:07 pm

People, I don't think someone who wrote about jobs etc. in 2009 would hold the same opinion today, so it's not really necessary to respond.




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