So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby legalized » Thu May 06, 2010 9:31 pm

I hope future lawyers remember to not treat their admin staff like the ASSHOLES so many of the current lawyers running their own firms are. Female lawyers especially seem to think being as big a b. as possible makes them look like a bigger boss somehow.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby Bert » Thu May 06, 2010 9:34 pm

Not to sidetrack the thread, but started interviewing for my replacement today. I am really on the verge of being outta here, but I have to train him for at least a month. Almost there!!

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby thorntll » Thu May 06, 2010 9:37 pm

How are you guys affording to live without paychecks for two or three months? I actually like my job, but even if I didn't, I couldn't afford that.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby jmhendri » Thu May 06, 2010 9:38 pm

legalized wrote:I hope future lawyers remember to not treat their admin staff like the ASSHOLES so many of the current lawyers running their own firms are. Female lawyers especially seem to think being as big a b. as possible makes them look like a bigger boss somehow.


+10,000

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby SportsFanatic » Thu May 06, 2010 11:01 pm

thorntll wrote:How are you guys affording to live without paychecks for two or three months? I actually like my job, but even if I didn't, I couldn't afford that.


My wife officially becomes the "bread winner". Finally this marriage thing will start to pay off.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby JCougar » Fri May 07, 2010 1:00 am

thorntll wrote:How are you guys affording to live without paychecks for two or three months? I actually like my job, but even if I didn't, I couldn't afford that.


I've got a bunch of money saved up. Going to take a cross-country road trip and try to pay most of COL for my first year with savings.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby as stars burn » Fri May 07, 2010 10:21 am

thorntll wrote:How are you guys affording to live without paychecks for two or three months? I actually like my job, but even if I didn't, I couldn't afford that.


My fiance and I have quite a bit of money saved together...and also, my fiance will continue to work while I'm in law school. It will surely ease the financial burden.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby as stars burn » Fri May 07, 2010 10:37 am

jmhendri wrote:
as stars burn wrote:
jmhendri wrote:I miss the [strike]self motivation of sales,[/strike] working with friends, making fun of the general public, [strike]discount, and flexible hours.[/strike]

Working in low level administration is a death sentence that leads to claustrophobia, weight gain/ muscle atrophy, low self esteem, and dementia.


My retail company sucks the life from you. if I have rewards cards, and purchase with purchases shoved down my throat one more time from corporate or my manager I'm going to scream. Oh, and because my company requires so much detail I get some of the nastiest customers. Yes, I still get sweet customers...but I've had a few that just made me want to cry.


what genre of sales are you in?


It's kind of hard to say without completely outing the company since there aren't many like it. But we're geared entirely on gifting. We have everything from things for weddings to things for baby. Basically, we sell a lot of crap that people don't need :) I almost visibly cringe when someone walks in the store and drops $200 on our crap. The reason I hate my job so much is that we don't make commission so I have no motivation whatsoever to "sell", we work by ourselves most of the time, we don't get breaks or meal breaks about 95% of the time unless we're double coverage (which is rare), we are constantly lectured from our manager and the district manager about making sales, selling rewards cards, selling purchase with purchase as if repeatedly shoving it down our throats is going to make us want to "sell" anymore than we already are. Really and truly--I'm miserable. I knew I'd be going to law school in a couple years so after a year of looking for a journalism job (to no avail.) I resorted to going back to retail so I could save any money I could, concentrate on the LSAT and my application. My manager makes less than $29k/yr. (however, it does depend on the company), and I just can't see a retail career being lucrative or stable for me. Sure, it's a nice fallback if something goes really wrong, but I'd like to leave and never come back.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby jmhendri » Fri May 07, 2010 12:14 pm

Most of my managers knew their lives took a wrong turn somewhere along the line and didn't hold it against me if I responded to their company-line credit pushing with severe mock enthusiasm... Although after I'd accumulated 5 years of seniority I pretty much just did what I wanted.

Retail is really only suitable as transition job for those in their 20s. If you haven't been promoted up and out of the store level by you mid 30s you're in for a hard life.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby JCougar » Fri May 07, 2010 12:52 pm

I pretty much did what I wanted in retail, too. They had undercover shoppers making sure you were doing a bunch of minutiae in order to "satisfy the customer," but I didn't really follow those because they were a bunch of theoretical corporate bullshit. I was #1 in sales/hour in my store and fifth in the state (and we had about a dozen stores in the state).

I always came in about 20 minutes late, got bad shop scores, never opened enough credit cards (it took to long to get the customer to fill out the form, and took away from my time selling). But nobody touched me because I got stellar sales figures. My manager loved me, but HR hated me. Being on full commission, there were some weeks where I made more than my manager, and some weeks I made more than I make now at my corporate office job. And on some part-time weeks, I got on the top 5 list of total sales, which was dominated by full-timers. That was a lot of fun -- I really loved the constant competitiveness of selling on commission. It's one of the reasons I really want to go into law and be put into a position to bring in clients. It's amazing to think that now I look back on my part-time undergrad job and realize I'd rather be doing that right now than working in a corporate office with grad-school debt.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby jmhendri » Fri May 07, 2010 12:58 pm

JCougar wrote:I pretty much did what I wanted in retail, too. They had undercover shoppers making sure you were doing a bunch of minutiae in order to "satisfy the customer," but I didn't really follow those because they were a bunch of theoretical corporate bullshit. I was #1 in sales/hour in my store and fifth in the state (and we had about a dozen stores in the state).

I always came in about 20 minutes late, got bad shop scores, never opened enough credit cards (it took to long to get the customer to fill out the form, and took away from my time selling). But nobody touched me because I got stellar sales figures. My manager loved me, but HR hated me. Being on full commission, there were some weeks where I made more than my manager, and some weeks I made more than I make now at my corporate office job. And on some part-time weeks, I got on the top 5 list of total sales, which was dominated by full-timers. That was a lot of fun -- I really loved the constant competitiveness of selling on commission. It's one of the reasons I really want to go into law and be put into a position to bring in clients. It's amazing to think that now I look back on my part-time undergrad job and realize I'd rather be doing that right now than working in a corporate office with grad-school debt.


definitely living parallel lives.

I hated opening cards because it took away from my carefully crafted false sincerity with clients, plus we gave a discount which ate away at my commission.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby csnowden1985 » Fri May 07, 2010 1:18 pm

Oh you people understand me!!!!!! I never have prayed so hard to be laid off. There are rumors around the office that they are happening sometime this summer. I just hope its soon and that it happens to me. Probably will get a months pay and a have a nice day. If that happens I will be over joyed. I work in an accounting firm that is now dead after a crazy tax season.

My plan: Grow a sweet ass beard (its is HIGHLY looked down upon at my firm to have facial hair)
Run twice a day and work out
Get my pastey lily white ass out in the sun and get a tan and some vitamen D
Eat cheap as shit and spend most of my unemployment on beer
Read as much as I can (I dont read much as it is now and wasn's in a mojor that required it in undergrad)

So I go into work everyday and am thankful for another week of pay, and yet really don't care about it any more.

So lunch hour over and back to the joyless office.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby JCougar » Fri May 07, 2010 1:19 pm

jmhendri wrote:
JCougar wrote:I pretty much did what I wanted in retail, too. They had undercover shoppers making sure you were doing a bunch of minutiae in order to "satisfy the customer," but I didn't really follow those because they were a bunch of theoretical corporate bullshit. I was #1 in sales/hour in my store and fifth in the state (and we had about a dozen stores in the state).

I always came in about 20 minutes late, got bad shop scores, never opened enough credit cards (it took to long to get the customer to fill out the form, and took away from my time selling). But nobody touched me because I got stellar sales figures. My manager loved me, but HR hated me. Being on full commission, there were some weeks where I made more than my manager, and some weeks I made more than I make now at my corporate office job. And on some part-time weeks, I got on the top 5 list of total sales, which was dominated by full-timers. That was a lot of fun -- I really loved the constant competitiveness of selling on commission. It's one of the reasons I really want to go into law and be put into a position to bring in clients. It's amazing to think that now I look back on my part-time undergrad job and realize I'd rather be doing that right now than working in a corporate office with grad-school debt.


definitely living parallel lives.

I hated opening cards because it took away from my carefully crafted false sincerity with clients, plus we gave a discount which ate away at my commission.


We gave a discount too, but it was taken after the point of sale, so I still got my commission. The problem is, we got $2 for every card we opened. It took 10-15 minutes to open a card. In those 15 minutes, I could have made $5-$10 in commission depending on how busy it was.

Card-opening compensation FAIL.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby fiftyonefifty » Fri May 07, 2010 1:42 pm

Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


csnowden1985 wrote:Oh you people understand me!!!!!! I never have prayed so hard to be laid off. There are rumors around the office that they are happening sometime this summer. I just hope its soon and that it happens to me. Probably will get a months pay and a have a nice day. If that happens I will be over joyed. I work in an accounting firm that is now dead after a crazy tax season.

My plan: Grow a sweet ass beard (its is HIGHLY looked down upon at my firm to have facial hair)
Run twice a day and work out
Get my pastey lily white ass out in the sun and get a tan and some vitamen D
Eat cheap as shit and spend most of my unemployment on beer
Read as much as I can (I dont read much as it is now and wasn's in a mojor that required it in undergrad)

So I go into work everyday and am thankful for another week of pay, and yet really don't care about it any more.

So lunch hour over and back to the joyless office.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby Encyclopedia Brown » Fri May 07, 2010 1:51 pm

I would have quit my job at the restaurant a long time ago, but unfortunately I've got to save enough money for the rest of the summer, housing deposits in the fall, etc. There's nothing like a newly-minted 21-year-old princess bitching at you because her Cosmo isn't sweet enough. My big victory was putting in my month's notice yesterday... God, that felt good. Now at least I can count down the days.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby Bert » Fri May 07, 2010 1:53 pm

fiftyonefifty wrote:Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


In most places, being a student disqualifies you from collecting unemployment.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby SwollenMonkey » Fri May 07, 2010 8:02 pm

Bert wrote:
fiftyonefifty wrote:Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


In most places, being a student disqualifies you from collecting unemployment.


But why?

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby TCScrutinizer » Sat May 08, 2010 10:42 am

SwollenMonkey wrote:
Bert wrote:
fiftyonefifty wrote:Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


In most places, being a student disqualifies you from collecting unemployment.


But why?


Because as a student the government already subsidizes your existence at far below market value?

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby blue5385 » Sat May 08, 2010 11:13 am

Sitting at the office on a Saturday morning working on the most boring assignments imaginable. :evil: The last five weeks of this job are not flying by as quickly as I hoped they would.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby wadeny » Sat May 08, 2010 12:29 pm

JCougar wrote:
jmhendri wrote:
JCougar wrote: Normally in the morning, she also gets two of the honey buns out of the vending machine and takes them back to her cubicle to molest them.



BAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.... I've got one here who pretends to consume nothing but lean cuisines and diet dr. pepper, but she has a "secret" drawer in her office full of bite sized milky ways and Reeses.


I guess that's what happens when people are treated like cattle and their brains are rendered near useless to the point where the only thing they can think about are basic survival functions such as eating and dozing off with their teevee to lull them to sleep at night.

Devoid of normal interaction with others (the office environment forces you to interact in a censored, pseudo-energetic, phony-team-spirit type of way, and pretend you actually do something useful when you know your job is bullshit), and devoid of anything but kindergarten work, all but the strongest of these spirits are destined for the compactor that crushes up junked cars into a cube and stacks them neatly into a dusty, rusty yard to be whithered away slowly by the elements.

As for the men here, if they're not the same way, they're all old and cranky, and have somehow managed to turn their somewhat well-off lives into a state of self-centered victimhood due to their percieved notion that the culture war is all but over for them.

It's like I'm in a graveyard for souls. If I didn't live near the beach, I'm not sure how I would have maintained my sanity these last two years.


Wow, this seriously sounds like my office (minus the beach unfortunately). I couldn't have described it any better. I'm almost convinced that my office exists simply to serve as a kind of welfare for middle-aged, overweight secretaries/middle managers who couldn't find work anywhere else if they tried. There are only few younger workers, but they're almost as bad because they idolize these older groundlings and will probably be doing the same uninspiring, mundane work 20-30 years from now. I would much rather take a risk going into debt for grad school and having some hope than struggling by with a worthless BA.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby JCougar » Sat May 08, 2010 12:54 pm

wadeny wrote:
JCougar wrote:
jmhendri wrote:
JCougar wrote: Normally in the morning, she also gets two of the honey buns out of the vending machine and takes them back to her cubicle to molest them.



BAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.... I've got one here who pretends to consume nothing but lean cuisines and diet dr. pepper, but she has a "secret" drawer in her office full of bite sized milky ways and Reeses.


I guess that's what happens when people are treated like cattle and their brains are rendered near useless to the point where the only thing they can think about are basic survival functions such as eating and dozing off with their teevee to lull them to sleep at night.

Devoid of normal interaction with others (the office environment forces you to interact in a censored, pseudo-energetic, phony-team-spirit type of way, and pretend you actually do something useful when you know your job is bullshit), and devoid of anything but kindergarten work, all but the strongest of these spirits are destined for the compactor that crushes up junked cars into a cube and stacks them neatly into a dusty, rusty yard to be whithered away slowly by the elements.

As for the men here, if they're not the same way, they're all old and cranky, and have somehow managed to turn their somewhat well-off lives into a state of self-centered victimhood due to their percieved notion that the culture war is all but over for them.

It's like I'm in a graveyard for souls. If I didn't live near the beach, I'm not sure how I would have maintained my sanity these last two years.


Wow, this seriously sounds like my office (minus the beach unfortunately). I couldn't have described it any better. I'm almost convinced that my office exists simply to serve as a kind of welfare for middle-aged, overweight secretaries/middle managers who couldn't find work anywhere else if they tried. There are only few younger workers, but they're almost as bad because they idolize these older groundlings and will probably be doing the same uninspiring, mundane work 20-30 years from now. I would much rather take a risk going into debt for grad school and having some hope than struggling by with a worthless BA.


LOL. I am convinced my office is a secret plot by the owners of my company to keep the middle class too preoccupied, tired, and depressed to plan the revolution that they should be planning. They keep us busy doing work so dumb that it couldn't possibly look good enough on a resume to allow you to get a better job in your field. It's a trap; a proverbial tar pit, and the people stuck in it often resemble large lizards and wooly mammoths, both literally and figuratively. :twisted:

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby 03121202698008 » Sat May 08, 2010 4:55 pm

SwollenMonkey wrote:
Bert wrote:
fiftyonefifty wrote:Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


In most places, being a student disqualifies you from collecting unemployment.


But why?


Because you must be looking for work to collect unemployment and its presumed you aren't looking for work if you are a student. In some states, you even have to show proof that you are applying for jobs. Also, some states attempt to help you find a job and if you turn one down they find you, you lose your unemployment. (At least that's what I've heard from others...)

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby SwollenMonkey » Sun May 09, 2010 2:30 pm

blhoward2 wrote:
SwollenMonkey wrote:
Bert wrote:
fiftyonefifty wrote:Haven't looked into it, but wonder if you would qualify for unemployment while attending law school.


In most places, being a student disqualifies you from collecting unemployment.


But why?


Because you must be looking for work to collect unemployment and its presumed you aren't looking for work if you are a student. In some states, you even have to show proof that you are applying for jobs. Also, some states attempt to help you find a job and if you turn one down they find you, you lose your unemployment. (At least that's what I've heard from others...)


Isn't the very fact that I am in law school (or will be) indicative that I am looking for work?

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby 03121202698008 » Sun May 09, 2010 2:48 pm

SwollenMonkey wrote:Isn't the very fact that I am in law school (or will be) indicative that I am looking for work?


No, the opposite. The ABA prohibits you from working X many hours and prefers you work none. Most people don't work during the year. Unemployment is designed to tide people over while they find a new job they are already qualified for. no support them while they gain new skills.

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Re: So, anybody ready to quit their jobs yet?

Postby SwollenMonkey » Sun May 09, 2010 2:53 pm

blhoward2 wrote:
SwollenMonkey wrote:Isn't the very fact that I am in law school (or will be) indicative that I am looking for work?


No, the opposite. The ABA prohibits you from working X many hours and prefers you work none. Most people don't work during the year. Unemployment is designed to tide people over while they find a new job they are already qualified for. no support them while they gain new skills.



Darn it!




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