Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

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Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby TLSMM99 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:30 am

I hear people say that once you fall below a schools 25% median than it does not really matter what your gpa is?

Also, I have heard people say that the difference between 2.9 and 3.0 is far greater than the difference between 3.0 & 3.1 due to schools wanting a 3 in front of your gpa

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby cavalier1138 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:41 am

Both positions are basically true.

Once you're below the 25th percentile, your actual GPA doesn't matter to an extent. Schools like HYS often have GPA floors that you simply can't fall beneath, even if you have a great LSAT. And even in less GPA-conscious schools, a sub-3.0 GPA can be a serious issue. So while you might see very little difference in results between applicants with a 3.0x and a 3.1x, you will likely see a significant difference between applicants with a 2.x and a 3.0x.

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby QContinuum » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:42 pm

Agree with cav above.

If you're very close to a 3.0, and you haven't received your (first) Bachelor's degree yet, it may make sense to consider taking additional classes to get above a 3.0 before graduating. Keep in mind: For LSAC GPA calculation purposes (the only GPA law schools care about), it doesn't matter where you earn a grade (whether it's at your degree-granting university or, say, a local community college), it doesn't matter what classes you take (you don't get any special credit for "tougher" STEM classes, or "tougher" junior/senior-level classes as opposed to intro or "non-major" classes), it doesn't matter whether a class counts toward your degree, and any grades you earn after receiving your first Bachelor's degree don't count. Once you receive that first Bachelor's degree, your LSAC GPA is locked in stone and cannot be changed.

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby TLSMM99 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:59 pm

cavalier1138 wrote:Both positions are basically true.

Once you're below the 25th percentile, your actual GPA doesn't matter to an extent. Schools like HYS often have GPA floors that you simply can't fall beneath, even if you have a great LSAT. And even in less GPA-conscious schools, a sub-3.0 GPA can be a serious issue. So while you might see very little difference in results between applicants with a 3.0x and a 3.1x, you will likely see a significant difference between applicants with a 2.x and a 3.0x.


What is the absolute GPA floor for the following schools for an AA Male with an LSAT of 175+

Harvard
Columbia
Chicago
NYU

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby cavalier1138 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:39 am

TLSMM99 wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:Both positions are basically true.

Once you're below the 25th percentile, your actual GPA doesn't matter to an extent. Schools like HYS often have GPA floors that you simply can't fall beneath, even if you have a great LSAT. And even in less GPA-conscious schools, a sub-3.0 GPA can be a serious issue. So while you might see very little difference in results between applicants with a 3.0x and a 3.1x, you will likely see a significant difference between applicants with a 2.x and a 3.0x.


What is the absolute GPA floor for the following schools for an AA Male with an LSAT of 175+

Harvard
Columbia
Chicago
NYU


Schools (except for Yale) don't generally report that number, but based on prior admissions specs, we can guess that Harvard is likely somewhere above a 3.0. Chicago, too. But Columbia and NYU might be more forgiving. Your URM status does affect the equation somewhat, so if you have a high LSAT, applying broadly is the best option.

I know you want hard numbers, but no one's going to be able to give you that.

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby The Lsat Airbender » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:45 am

Chicago reports their minumum GPA for each class, like Yale, and it's usually solidly above 3.0:

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/Admi ... 0FINAL.pdf - 3.13

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/class-profile - 3.31

It is plausible that HLS might be less picky, because they are so much larger, but I doubt it.

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Re: Is there a difference between 2.9 & 3.0 gpa?

Postby decimalsanddollars » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:57 am

The Lsat Airbender wrote:Chicago reports their minumum GPA for each class, like Yale, and it's usually solidly above 3.0:

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/Admi ... 0FINAL.pdf - 3.13

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/class-profile - 3.31

It is plausible that HLS might be less picky, because they are so much larger, but I doubt it.


Note that this is range is for matriculated students, not admitted students, so it's very possible they let some people in with lower stats who chose to go elsewhere. Even so, not looking great for a 2.9 applicant (or a 3.0 applicant, fwiw).

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