Benefits to Early Decision?

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Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby AmbulanceChas3r » Sat May 19, 2018 10:34 pm

I know some schools have scholarship programs for early decision applicants but what about for other schools? Do you have a better shot at admission?

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby Danniel » Wed May 30, 2018 5:32 am

There would be such schools definitely. You need to do research over it.

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby Npret » Wed May 30, 2018 11:57 am

Be careful to read what you agree to with early decision. You don’t want to have to wait a year if you get accepted to a school you don’t want to attend.
Most schools are clear on their website as to whether you can be considered for scholarships as early admission candidate.

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby AmbulanceChas3r » Thu May 31, 2018 11:12 pm

Npret wrote:Be careful to read what you agree to with early decision. You don’t want to have to wait a year if you get accepted to a school you don’t want to attend.
Most schools are clear on their website as to whether you can be considered for scholarships as early admission candidate.


Skimming through the CLS ED contract there's no mention of scholarships I think, just the obvious fact that you can't go to another school if they offer you more money

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby Npret » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:26 am

AmbulanceChas3r wrote:
Npret wrote:Be careful to read what you agree to with early decision. You don’t want to have to wait a year if you get accepted to a school you don’t want to attend.
Most schools are clear on their website as to whether you can be considered for scholarships as early admission candidate.


Skimming through the CLS ED contract there's no mention of scholarships I think, just the obvious fact that you can't go to another school if they offer you more money


That’s not what it says. It says if you are accepted, you agree to matriculate, withdraw all other apps, decline any acceptances and not have more than one early decision application. That means you aren’t going to be getting any offers from other schools, in case you didn’t understand.
If you aren’t certain you will go if accepted and money is an issue, I wouldn’t apply early decision.
They can’t force you to attend of course, but you won’t be going to any law school next year if you decline an early decision acceptance.
Also schools do report early admission decisions, so other schools will find out and Columbia will find out if a person breaks the contracts.

http://www.law.columbia.edu/sites/defau ... ct-cls.doc

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby sparkytrainer » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:31 pm

ED is NEVER EVER worth it unless one of the two:

1- It is a school that gives a full tuition scholarship along with ED. Say Northwestern for example. These schools are the rarity.

2- Your family is independently wealthy and willing to blow 300k on your legal education.

Following from 2- if you ED to a school that does not give a full tuition scholarship, they have absolutely ZERO incentive to give you a dime in scholarships. You committed to attending and signed a contract. Either you attend the school or you wait out a cycle. Schools DO share this information amongst each other. Scholarships are used to attract better talent (aka better numbers) to schools. Applying ED provides zero incentive for the school to provide you any money. The different with a school that uses ED to give full tuition scholarships is they are using ED to get better numbers than they usually could, because it comes with a full guaranteed scholarship. For example, the people who get in ED at Northwestern tend to be above both 75%'s.

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby AmbulanceChas3r » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:37 pm

sparkytrainer wrote:ED is NEVER EVER worth it unless one of the two:

1- It is a school that gives a full tuition scholarship along with ED. Say Northwestern for example. These schools are the rarity.

2- Your family is independently wealthy and willing to blow 300k on your legal education.

Following from 2- if you ED to a school that does not give a full tuition scholarship, they have absolutely ZERO incentive to give you a dime in scholarships. You committed to attending and signed a contract. Either you attend the school or you wait out a cycle. Schools DO share this information amongst each other. Scholarships are used to attract better talent (aka better numbers) to schools. Applying ED provides zero incentive for the school to provide you any money. The different with a school that uses ED to give full tuition scholarships is they are using ED to get better numbers than they usually could, because it comes with a full guaranteed scholarship. For example, the people who get in ED at Northwestern tend to be above both 75%'s.


my GPA is below NW's 25th right now and will only be slightly above the 25th if I get all A's next year. I also have very little work experience so I'm probably unlikely to be accepted to NW's ED program. I'm also extremely unlikely to get money from anywhere else that I would like to attend.
my parents are willing to pay for my COL + half my tuition. I'd probably be looking at around ~80-90k in loans.

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby sparkytrainer » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm

AmbulanceChas3r wrote:
sparkytrainer wrote:ED is NEVER EVER worth it unless one of the two:

1- It is a school that gives a full tuition scholarship along with ED. Say Northwestern for example. These schools are the rarity.

2- Your family is independently wealthy and willing to blow 300k on your legal education.

Following from 2- if you ED to a school that does not give a full tuition scholarship, they have absolutely ZERO incentive to give you a dime in scholarships. You committed to attending and signed a contract. Either you attend the school or you wait out a cycle. Schools DO share this information amongst each other. Scholarships are used to attract better talent (aka better numbers) to schools. Applying ED provides zero incentive for the school to provide you any money. The different with a school that uses ED to give full tuition scholarships is they are using ED to get better numbers than they usually could, because it comes with a full guaranteed scholarship. For example, the people who get in ED at Northwestern tend to be above both 75%'s.


my GPA is below NW's 25th right now and will only be slightly above the 25th if I get all A's next year. I also have very little work experience so I'm probably unlikely to be accepted to NW's ED program. I'm also extremely unlikely to get money from anywhere else that I would like to attend.
my parents are willing to pay for my COL + half my tuition. I'd probably be looking at around ~80-90k in loans.


So to be clear, your parents are willing and able to write a 200k check? Because that is what you are asking them to do.

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby AmbulanceChas3r » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:51 pm

sparkytrainer wrote:
AmbulanceChas3r wrote:
sparkytrainer wrote:ED is NEVER EVER worth it unless one of the two:

1- It is a school that gives a full tuition scholarship along with ED. Say Northwestern for example. These schools are the rarity.

2- Your family is independently wealthy and willing to blow 300k on your legal education.

Following from 2- if you ED to a school that does not give a full tuition scholarship, they have absolutely ZERO incentive to give you a dime in scholarships. You committed to attending and signed a contract. Either you attend the school or you wait out a cycle. Schools DO share this information amongst each other. Scholarships are used to attract better talent (aka better numbers) to schools. Applying ED provides zero incentive for the school to provide you any money. The different with a school that uses ED to give full tuition scholarships is they are using ED to get better numbers than they usually could, because it comes with a full guaranteed scholarship. For example, the people who get in ED at Northwestern tend to be above both 75%'s.


my GPA is below NW's 25th right now and will only be slightly above the 25th if I get all A's next year. I also have very little work experience so I'm probably unlikely to be accepted to NW's ED program. I'm also extremely unlikely to get money from anywhere else that I would like to attend.
my parents are willing to pay for my COL + half my tuition. I'd probably be looking at around ~80-90k in loans.


So to be clear, your parents are willing and able to write a 200k check? Because that is what you are asking them to do.


yes

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Re: Benefits to Early Decision?

Postby Npret » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:24 am

AmbulanceChas3r wrote:
sparkytrainer wrote:
AmbulanceChas3r wrote:
sparkytrainer wrote:ED is NEVER EVER worth it unless one of the two:

1- It is a school that gives a full tuition scholarship along with ED. Say Northwestern for example. These schools are the rarity.

2- Your family is independently wealthy and willing to blow 300k on your legal education.

Following from 2- if you ED to a school that does not give a full tuition scholarship, they have absolutely ZERO incentive to give you a dime in scholarships. You committed to attending and signed a contract. Either you attend the school or you wait out a cycle. Schools DO share this information amongst each other. Scholarships are used to attract better talent (aka better numbers) to schools. Applying ED provides zero incentive for the school to provide you any money. The different with a school that uses ED to give full tuition scholarships is they are using ED to get better numbers than they usually could, because it comes with a full guaranteed scholarship. For example, the people who get in ED at Northwestern tend to be above both 75%'s.

What are your numbers? It’s not clear that ED will give you a bonus in admission. Also, why are you interested in law school?
my GPA is below NW's 25th right now and will only be slightly above the 25th if I get all A's next year. I also have very little work experience so I'm probably unlikely to be accepted to NW's ED program. I'm also extremely unlikely to get money from anywhere else that I would like to attend.
my parents are willing to pay for my COL + half my tuition. I'd probably be looking at around ~80-90k in loans.


So to be clear, your parents are willing and able to write a 200k check? Because that is what you are asking them to do.


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