paperworkjim wrote: edcat wrote: cavalier1138 wrote:
JamesBlahDeBlah wrote:I can only speak for myself, but as a high lsat / high gpa applicant, I'm probably only applying because of Trump. I was always thinking about going but needed a push. I can definitely make more money not going to law school (programmer), so I was hesitant but feel like I should be doing something more useful (wanting to go into non profit law). Hence my thinking these numbers reflect others thinking the same way (this would also mean a likely increase in older candidates, so that might be a check).
You know that we elect a new president every four years or so, right?
I'm not saying to not go. But if your sole reason for getting a JD is Trump, then you're going to be really aimless when you graduate and someone else is in office.
I'm not sure how you read that post and see that his sole reason for getting a JD is Trump. He literally said Trump was just a little push. He also said he sees non-profit law as more useful than programming. Right or not, that is definitely another reason he has to go into law. Further all the evidence suggests non-profit lawyers are more satisfied and less aimless than their corporate counterparts. They are just poor.
At the same time, I still don't see how any of the rationale James lists wouldn't equally apply to lower scoring candidates. Why wouldn't they feel a push to finally apply to law school too as a result of Trump?
We need to explain that disparity. Why are high score applications climbing so much faster than low and middle score apps? A recession explains it, since hiring dries up for everyone and high scoring applicants generally have easier access to other jobs in the economy. Therefore, when those jobs start to dry up, they flock to law school and graduate school where there are the same number of available spots as normal. There may be other explanations for the disparity, but none have been offered here yet.
Edit: Upon rereading he did say that he didn't think he would be going if not for Trump.
My man. Remember your LSAT lessons -- just because something is a potential explanation does not mean it is even a feasible one. I promise you, from the bottom of my heart, the thousands of law school applicants are not genius economists who can for-see a recession coming.
I think it is someone else's logic(yours) that needs work. No applicant needs to see a recession coming for the explanation to work. Therefore, your promise should provide no comfort at all to anyone.
Let us go over it again. Applicants simply must need to struggle to find a job or promotion due to an upcoming slow down in entry level or near entry level hiring. If applicants who ordinarilly would have been able to secure jobs they preferred to law school for next summer or fall do not see good prospects, they turn to other options including law school. This is always true but usually smart applicants can find jobs more easilly than others. During or preceding a recession, they suddenly can't because noone can. We don't have the statistics for next year's or even this quarter's hiring numbers yet, because the decisions haven't even been fully made yet and even after that there will be a lag in reporting(but nonetheless 0Ls could have tested the water and pulled back when they got bad signs).
Finally, I obviously noted there could be other explanations. In fact, I requested any others that explain both the increase in applications and the fact that the increase is concentrated among high scorers. I also noted that it could be that there is something causing high LSAT applicants to apply early this cycle and there may not even be more of them total in the cycle. Nonethelss, nothing about the recession explanation demands for anyone to be a genius or an economist.They have to be smart enough to get above a 175 on the LSAT and have to be able to tell that the job market isn't responding favorably to them.