Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

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Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby 2018law » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:46 pm

GPA - 3.75 (Engineering)
Took LSAT June 2016 - 152 (cold take) i.e. 52 percentile
Took GRE December 2016 - 163 (V) i.e. 92 percentile and 166 (Q) i.e. 91 percentile (studied for 3 months)
7+ years of technical/engineering work experience.

Thinking of applying to Georgetown and NU. Will my LSAT score stop me from getting admitted since LSAT scores have to be reported? Or will my GRE score be the one considered?

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby UVA2B » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:55 pm

Strictly speaking, LSAC and law schools have not outlined how they'll deal with applicants carrying an LSAT and a GRE. As of right now, the LSAT will be reported, which will affect you.

This seems like a pretty perfectly bated question for those of us that just don't know, so I suppose the only answer is apply and see.

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby 2018law » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:59 pm

UVA2B wrote:Strictly speaking, LSAC and law schools have not outlined how they'll deal with applicants carrying an LSAT and a GRE. As of right now, the LSAT will be reported, which will affect you.

This seems like a pretty perfectly bated question for those of us that just don't know, so I suppose the only answer is apply and see.


So at this point it will most likely be a rejection :(

thought the recent news would help me out

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby IExistedOnceBefore » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:02 pm

Good news is the 152 is a great place to start since you took it cold. Start studying and take it again.

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby Platopus » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:04 pm

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby Gordon_Cole » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:12 am

2018law wrote:GPA - 3.75 (Engineering)
Took LSAT June 2016 - 152 (cold take) i.e. 52 percentile
Took GRE December 2016 - 163 (V) i.e. 92 percentile and 166 (Q) i.e. 91 percentile (studied for 3 months)
7+ years of technical/engineering work experience.

Thinking of applying to Georgetown and NU. Will my LSAT score stop me from getting admitted since LSAT scores have to be reported? Or will my GRE score be the one considered?


NU is not accepting until next cycle. If you can score in the area Platopus described, you'd be in good shape at a number of schools, but the game is going to change substantially after this next cycle with the potential GRE applicant deluge.

At the same time, it is unknown whether having a low GRE despite a high LSAT could hurt you because the reporting practices and requirements for GRE have not been substantially outlined - Arizona did report GRE scores to US News. Unfortunately, this means that you may have to bring up both scores for this / next cycle, with the GRE at a possibly higher percentile than equivalent LSAT for a school - that's pure speculation though.

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby AJordan » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:23 am

Agreed that you should operate under the assumption that both your LSAT (definitely) and GRE (probably - we'll see after this year) are not high enough.
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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby eck456 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:06 am

AJordan wrote:Agreed that you should operate under the assumption that both your LSAT (definitely) and GRE (probably - we'll see after this year) are not high enough.


I would agree on this - especially for someone who works in hard sciences, they're going to be suspicious of anyone who isn't scoring 98/99 percentile in quant, or at least that's what I've been told about other grad programs using the GRE. 92% is usually good for the one you're not a specialist in, but in your chosen field (I.e. Math/ tech) they're going to think you didn't study enough if you submit that score. Plus, no one really knows how they're using the GRE and you can sit it pretty much whenever you want, so if you're serious about the GRE route you probably still need to retake

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby 2018law » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:13 am

eck456 wrote:
AJordan wrote:Agreed that you should operate under the assumption that both your LSAT (definitely) and GRE (probably - we'll see after this year) are not high enough.


I would agree on this - especially for someone who works in hard sciences, they're going to be suspicious of anyone who isn't scoring 98/99 percentile in quant, or at least that's what I've been told about other grad programs using the GRE. 92% is usually good for the one you're not a specialist in, but in your chosen field (I.e. Math/ tech) they're going to think you didn't study enough if you submit that score. Plus, no one really knows how they're using the GRE and you can sit it pretty much whenever you want, so if you're serious about the GRE route you probably still need to retake


Going to retake the GRE soon. Have been scoring in the 98 percentile range in practice tests. What do you guys and gals think of applying with a 96-98 percentile GRE only?

Not sure if I have time for retaking LSAT since the next one realistically is the one in Dec and that's late in the cycle with Jan scores. I can retake GRE and apply in early Nov.

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby cavalier1138 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:16 am

I think that no one is going to be able to tell you how this is going to work with both scores. We know that the schools are still reporting LSAT scores for rankings purposes, so if you have a good GRE but a low LSAT, I don't think the school is going to give you a pass. No schools have indicated that they will consider the GRE in place of the LSAT if you have a reportable LSAT score.

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Re: Unique Situation with GRE -Need Advice

Postby twiix » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:37 am

2018law wrote:
eck456 wrote:
AJordan wrote:Agreed that you should operate under the assumption that both your LSAT (definitely) and GRE (probably - we'll see after this year) are not high enough.


I would agree on this - especially for someone who works in hard sciences, they're going to be suspicious of anyone who isn't scoring 98/99 percentile in quant, or at least that's what I've been told about other grad programs using the GRE. 92% is usually good for the one you're not a specialist in, but in your chosen field (I.e. Math/ tech) they're going to think you didn't study enough if you submit that score. Plus, no one really knows how they're using the GRE and you can sit it pretty much whenever you want, so if you're serious about the GRE route you probably still need to retake


Going to retake the GRE soon. Have been scoring in the 98 percentile range in practice tests. What do you guys and gals think of applying with a 96-98 percentile GRE only?

Not sure if I have time for retaking LSAT since the next one realistically is the one in Dec and that's late in the cycle with Jan scores. I can retake GRE and apply in early Nov.


Literally nobody knows. Anything you've heard up until now is entirely speculation.

With that being said, some of the professionals in Law School admissions have speculated that the GRE will be used as a means of increasing a schools GPA averages, and to further offset splitters and super splitters with high LSAT scores but low GPA's, What I mean is, they will be cherry picking the kids with 4.0's & decently high GRE scores, since there is no LSAT to pick. Choosing someone with a lower than median GPA, AND no LSAT score.. doesn't seem very ideal? The fact that you arent in the 99% range for the GRE doesn't help either, as it doesn't scream "I'm intellectually superior to my peers who are applying with 97%s".

If I were to make a guess as to which path would be of least resistance to getting into Law School, my money would be on studying for the LSAT and getting a 168+.

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