The Good News for WUSTL

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The Good News for WUSTL

Postby ModernRomanLaw » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:05 am

According to the ABA required disclosures, WUSTL started offering full tuition scholarships to a significant portion of students in 2013 (to the incoming Class of 2016). Over the following three years, this practice managed to increase their median and 75th percentile LSAT scores by two points each, to 168 and 169, respectively. In terms of standardized test scores, they've gone from well outside the T14 to having a median above Cornell's and Georgetown's.

The good news is that this shameless LSAT whoring seems to have also paid off in terms of employment of graduates. According to employment statistics, the large firm (101+) and clerkship percentages remained pretty stagnant for the classes of 2013, 2014, and 2015 (34.7%, 35.3%, and 36.4%). Then, for the class of 2016, there was a 12-point jump to 48.7%, an increase far more significant than that of any other school. Again, this increase exactly coincides with the significant increase in full tuition scholarships offered to the incoming class of 2016 three years prior.

This is all great news for WUSTL's current and incoming classes who are wondering what happened with employment statistics this past year and whether such increases will be typical. This is also something to think about for anyone next year who will be considering turning down a T14 for a significant scholarship at WUSTL.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby anyriotgirl » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:26 am

generally, when drafting press releases you should start with the lede

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby cavalier1138 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:22 am

Also, talk with other publicity people at the school about how to disguise posts like this and make them sound at least somewhat like an earnest student. You have a lot of work to do.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby TatteredDignity » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:37 am

Also, your readers probably understand the difference between causation and correlation.

As a WashU grad, I'm a little embarrassed by this.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby BansheeScream » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:06 am

I can't believe an adcomm would be dumb enough to post this. Has to be some sort of reverse psychology trolling right?

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Iwanttolawschool » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:12 am

All in favor to boycott WashU out of spite, say I

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby lymenheimer » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:30 am

Do you guys in the administration pronounce it WUSTL or WUSTL?

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby ModernRomanLaw » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:31 pm

lol I'm an idiotic 0L publicly justifying my own choice of WashU. I'm sorry!

Also, I attempted to discuss correlation vs. causation by indicating that the 12-point increase is more than any other school experienced. Therefore, it has to be explained by something specific to WashU. Whether it's the significant scholarships that caused the increase or not is irrelevant

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby existentialcrisis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:15 pm

ModernRomanLaw wrote:lol I'm an idiotic 0L publicly justifying my own choice of WashU. I'm sorry!

Also, I attempted to discuss correlation vs. causation by indicating that the 12-point increase is more than any other school experienced. Therefore, it has to be explained by something specific to WashU. Whether it's the significant scholarships that caused the increase or not is irrelevant


Random variance. No chance firms are keeping up to date on WUSTL's (or any school's medians).

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby sublime » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:42 pm

Smaller class plus improved market, if I had to guess.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby pleaseberkeley » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:16 am

I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby cavalier1138 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:15 am

pleaseberkeley wrote:I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.


Because the OP sounded like a WUSTL admissions department plant. I'm still not convinced that they're actually a 0L. It's not uncommon for adcomms to come to online forums and anonymously pump up their own schools.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby sublime » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:22 am

cavalier1138 wrote:
pleaseberkeley wrote:I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.


Because the OP sounded like a WUSTL admissions department plant. I'm still not convinced that they're actually a 0L. It's not uncommon for adcomms to come to online forums and anonymously pump up their own schools.


Wustl adcomms lurk but don't post. They would also have done this better.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby lymenheimer » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:27 am

sublime wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
pleaseberkeley wrote:I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.


Because the OP sounded like a WUSTL admissions department plant. I'm still not convinced that they're actually a 0L. It's not uncommon for adcomms to come to online forums and anonymously pump up their own schools.


Wustl adcomms lurk but don't post. They would also have done this better.

Outed. Who voted for this adcomm to be a mod? Now I know why wustl didnt give me a full ride. They read my PMs!

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Sprout » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:56 pm

lymenheimer wrote:
sublime wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
pleaseberkeley wrote:I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.


Because the OP sounded like a WUSTL admissions department plant. I'm still not convinced that they're actually a 0L. It's not uncommon for adcomms to come to online forums and anonymously pump up their own schools.


Wustl adcomms lurk but don't post. They would also have done this better.

Outed. Who voted for this adcomm to be a mod? Now I know why wustl didnt give me a full ride. They read my PMs!

Mods cant read PMs yo. also lol


eta fwiw, the wash u career office has improved SUBSTANTIALLY this past year - forreal. So there's that too.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby PeanutsNJam » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:23 pm

yeah this is clearly an 0L trying to justify a decision to attend WUSTL

could've been a prestige-obsessed insecure 1L (rising 2L) as well

C/O 2017 is huge so it'll be interesting to see their employment stats. Anecdotally 2017 seems to be doing well but who knows.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:29 pm

sublime wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
pleaseberkeley wrote:I don't get why OP is being bashed. He is literally stating the statistics, which point to a 12% increase in BigLaw and federal clerkships.


Because the OP sounded like a WUSTL admissions department plant. I'm still not convinced that they're actually a 0L. It's not uncommon for adcomms to come to online forums and anonymously pump up their own schools.


Wustl adcomms lurk but don't post. They would also have done this better.


You don't have to kiss ass anymore dude. You already got your scholly.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby cron1834 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:35 pm

PeanutsNJam wrote:yeah this is clearly an 0L trying to justify a decision to attend WUSTL

could've been a prestige-obsessed insecure 1L (rising 2L) as well

C/O 2017 is huge so it'll be interesting to see their employment stats.
Anecdotally 2017 seems to be doing well but who knows.

Hit the nail on the head.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby stego » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:13 am

I will say OP's TLS box says he has a full-tuition scholarship with a $15,000/year stipend to WUSTL. If that's a real thing they give out he successfully made me want to apply there.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby carsondalywashere » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:38 am

stego wrote:I will say OP's TLS box says he has a full-tuition scholarship with a $15,000/year stipend to WUSTL. If that's a real thing they give out he successfully made me want to apply there.

It's a real thing

Edit - not 100% on the stipend, but they for sure give out $5,000 ones (and stl rent is like $600 for a 1 bedroom)

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Martin Brody » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:03 pm

I just went to St. Louis recently. I feel bad for people who suck at the LSAT or undergrad because it's an awful place.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Capitol_Idea » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:32 pm

Martin Brody wrote:I just went to St. Louis recently. I feel bad for people who suck at the LSAT or undergrad because it's an awful place.

Yeah just a little bit better and they can get to a school in Washington, D.C., an absolutely swell town that isn't a hellswamp!

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Martin Brody » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:34 pm

Capitol_Idea wrote:
Martin Brody wrote:I just went to St. Louis recently. I feel bad for people who suck at the LSAT or undergrad because it's an awful place.

Yeah just a little bit better and they can get to a school in Washington, D.C., an absolutely swell town that isn't a hellswamp!


I feel bad for those idiots too.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby bwaldorf » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:03 pm

Martin Brody wrote:I just went to St. Louis recently. I feel bad for people who suck at the LSAT or undergrad because it's an awful place.


I love St. Louis. It's (along with a huge schools) why I chose WUSTL over a couple other schools. I want to live there for good.

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Re: The Good News for WUSTL

Postby Martin Brody » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:04 pm

bwaldorf wrote:
Martin Brody wrote:I just went to St. Louis recently. I feel bad for people who suck at the LSAT or undergrad because it's an awful place.


I love St. Louis. It's (along with a huge schools) why I chose WUSTL over a couple other schools. I want to live there for good.


I'm sorry to hear that.




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