LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

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LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby Trsk345 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:18 am

Curious what LSAT I would need minimum to get into these schools... currently scoring around 168ish and taking in Sept.
Graduated with a 3.92 GPA in econ, was a D1 athlete who set 2 school records for my sport. Will athletic achievement help me significantly here?

Thanks

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby Nught » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:48 am

Trsk345 wrote:Curious what LSAT I would need minimum to get into these schools... currently scoring around 168ish and taking in Sept.
Graduated with a 3.92 GPA in econ, was a D1 athlete who set 2 school records for my sport. Will athletic achievement help me significantly here?

Thanks


I think that should make you competitive. If you write well you will have a good shot. I had a 151 LSAT and a 3.8 GPA and got Reserved this year by Columbia. I wrote a killer personal statement. If I had a 168 and a 3.92, I would like to think I'd be in.

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby stego » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:59 am

25% of NYU's last class entered with an LSAT at or below 166. We don't know the lowest they would accept though. Of course it's not necessarily easy to get admitted even with strong numbers but you have a good chance.

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby AJordan » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:44 am

A 170 would get you in at least one. I think 172 would get you into all three. Below 170 and you're still probably fine at your current level but it gets dicey if you slip below the 25th percentile. Congrats on your gpa.

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby cavalier1138 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:50 am

Nught wrote:I think that should make you competitive. If you write well you will have a good shot. I had a 151 LSAT and a 3.8 GPA and got Reserved this year by Columbia. I wrote a killer personal statement. If I had a 168 and a 3.92, I would like to think I'd be in.


This is not at all a normal outcome for those numbers, and I wouldn't blame it on your PS, regardless of how brilliant you think your writing is. If you're on reserve at Columbia with a 151, it's because there were other factors on your application that made up for the low score (URM, insane softs, etc.). This isn't to say that your application wasn't great, but you shouldn't go around advising people that a really good PS makes up for an LSAT well below the school's 25th.

OP: For CCN, a 168 won't take you out of the running, but you should be shooting for 170+. Don't count on your athletics to "fix" a lower LSAT.

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby Nught » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:26 pm

cavalier1138 wrote:
Nught wrote:I think that should make you competitive. If you write well you will have a good shot. I had a 151 LSAT and a 3.8 GPA and got Reserved this year by Columbia. I wrote a killer personal statement. If I had a 168 and a 3.92, I would like to think I'd be in.


This is not at all a normal outcome for those numbers, and I wouldn't blame it on your PS, regardless of how brilliant you think your writing is. If you're on reserve at Columbia with a 151, it's because there were other factors on your application that made up for the low score (URM, insane softs, etc.). This isn't to say that your application wasn't great, but you shouldn't go around advising people that a really good PS makes up for an LSAT well below the school's 25th.

OP: For CCN, a 168 won't take you out of the running, but you should be shooting for 170+. Don't count on your athletics to "fix" a lower LSAT.


I get what you are saying Cavalier. One of the things all of the top law schools say is that there is no minimum LSAT and that they all take a holistic approach when considering applications. Great writing, URM (which I am not), insane softs (yes), top flight recommendations (yes), and just having them like you is important.

I wrote my PS with the intent of having anyone who reads it to come away wanting to admit me. I guess that is what we all try to do. I hear a girl this year wrote a PS about Papa Johns Pizza and got into Yale because she made the admission counsel laugh (not Yale law, just regular Yale).

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby MercW07 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:27 pm

AJordan wrote:A 170 would get you in at least one. I think 172 would get you into all three. Below 170 and you're still probably fine at your current level but it gets dicey if you slip below the 25th percentile. Congrats on your gpa.


^This

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Re: LSAT Needed For Columbia, NYU, Chicago

Postby Anon.y.mousse. » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:32 pm

Trsk345 wrote:Curious what LSAT I would need minimum to get into these schools... currently scoring around 168ish and taking in Sept.
Graduated with a 3.92 GPA in econ, was a D1 athlete who set 2 school records for my sport. Will athletic achievement help me significantly here?

Thanks


I had a very similar GPA and got into Columbia and Chicago with a 170. I also got into NYU, but wasn't accepted until I received the score back from my Feb LSAT (172). Not sure if I would have been accepted with original score and they just wanted to wait to see what my new score was for the fun of it or whether the score increase made the difference. I have work experience so I don't know if that helped boost my app. Not sure how big of a factor being an athlete will be, but I'm sure it won't hurt.




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