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Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Jack01 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:23 am

I am currently a undergrad senior with one more semester left at my undergrads college.Freshman year I took two courses Biology and Chemistry and failed,which landed me on academic probation.I wanted to retake at least my biology course but due to poor advisement from one of the school advisors,was told that I wouldn't be able to stay in school ,but found out I was able to stay in school but by then the BIO class was full.The weird thing was that when I went to another advisor ,the advisor ran into the room and trying to explain his mistake.The new advisor told me that I should take easy courses to get off of academic probation,so this semester that what I did (plus I wasn't able to take BiO).I am also scheduled to take the LSAT in June and if I do not like my grade, I plan to take it again September.

I wanted to ask two question
1)Does it make sense to apply to law school?
2)Should I reatke both the fail courses or at least one of them?
3)I heard about splitter friendly schools and I was wanted to know if that would apply to me ?
4)I wanted to know if there were things that I could to make myself look better for law school,personal letters,recommendations,etc.
5)Should I apply for a post bac

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby cavalier1138 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:47 am

I had to read your OP three or four times to figure out what you were saying, so I would seriously recommend doing some work on your writing if you want to go law school.

That said, there's no information here that anyone can use to give you specific advice. At the very least, we need to know your current GPA. Even then, it'll be difficult to give you any advice without an LSAT score, but it's a starting point. But here's an attempt to answer your questions.

1) Do you want to be a lawyer? If so, then yes.
2) If you want to.
3) You don't have an LSAT, so you aren't a splitter.
4) You could get a really good LSAT score.
5) If you want to.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:01 am

Jeezus, a little proofreading (or even like...maybe think about what you're writing) wouldn't hurt. I also really have almost no clue as to what you're talking about.

This is essentially what I understood:

"I was supposed to take bio but I couldn't take bio but I could. I'm on academic probation. I'm taking the LSAT. Do I still have a chance?"

1. Go to law school if you want to be a lawyer.
2. You're not a splitter since
a. You have no LSAT score (practice tests don't count).
b. you could get a really low LSAT score that's on par with your GPA.
c. we can't really tell you if you're a splitter since you don't list your GPA. You could
have a 3.8 for all we know.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Mikey » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:35 am

Not trying to be mean but you really need to work on your writing if you intend on going to LS..

1. refer to what the people above me said for this one
2. do you have to take them? are they required? if not, take them if you want but if you don't need/want to then don't. the fails will still count when you apply to schools
3. no clue what your GPA is, and you don't even have an LSAT score yet so you're not a splitter right now
4. do well on the LSAT and write (proofread please!) a good personal statement. the most important here being the LSAT
5. idk, I guess if you want to then why not but it's not necessary or incredibly helpful for law school if that was what you were wondering

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby blueapple » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:05 pm

Why would you get a post-bacc if you want to go to law school?

Don't retake either failed course unless you need it to graduate. As others have mentioned, the Fs still count for law school admissions even if you retake them (i.e. both the F and the new grade will factor into your LSAC GPA), and if you failed them once already you're probably not going to get As this time around.
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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby emkay625 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:14 pm

Two questions will help us give you better advice:

1. What is your GPA?
2. Have you taken a diagnostic LSAT? (**Practice tests do not translate to your performance on test day, and many people see very large improvement in their scores from their first diagnostic test to their actual score. But we need to know at least where you stand right now so we can help you.)

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby vcap180 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:16 pm

Uh, the issues in OPs post are not the type that are fixed with "proofreading"...

OP - What are you majoring in? Have you considered taking any writing courses, in addition to the minimum, or "core", requirements at your UG?

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby albanach » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:26 pm

Also, if you really want to be a lawyer, delaying graduation as long as possible and getting A grades in easy courses might be an option. Make sure you understanding how the LSAC GPA is calculated and your options for maximizing your GPA.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby vcap180 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:36 pm

albanach wrote:Also, if you really want to be a lawyer, delaying graduation as long as possible and getting A grades in easy courses might be an option. Make sure you understanding how the LSAC GPA is calculated and your options for maximizing your GPA.



Definitely this. Stockpile as many A's as you can from stupid electives to try to offset those Fs.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Nebby » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:38 pm

Jack01 wrote:I am currently a undergrad senior with one more semester left at my undergrads college.Freshman year I took two courses Biology and Chemistry and failed,which landed me on academic probation.I wanted to retake at least my biology course but due to poor advisement from one of the school advisors,was told that I wouldn't be able to stay in school ,but found out I was able to stay in school but by then the BIO class was full.The weird thing was that when I went to another advisor ,the advisor ran into the room and trying to explain his mistake.The new advisor told me that I should take easy courses to get off of academic probation,so this semester that what I did (plus I wasn't able to take BiO).I am also scheduled to take the LSAT in June and if I do not like my grade, I plan to take it again September.

I wanted to ask two question
1)Does it make sense to apply to law school?
2)Should I reatke both the fail courses or at least one of them?
3)I heard about splitter friendly schools and I was wanted to know if that would apply to me ?
4)I wanted to know if there were things that I could to make myself look better for law school,personal letters,recommendations,etc.
5)Should I apply for a post bac

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby HonestAdvice » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:01 pm

The fact you were on academic probation isn't as relevant as the GPA. It's not a crime to get bad grades. If the gpa is low and the academic probation is recent then you will need a very strong LSAT. Without that you have the profile of someone who reviewers will expect to struggle in law school. As hard as it sounds, it's probably better to do poorly because of a lack of effort.

Many if the errors in the post seem to be a product of typing on a cell phone.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby zot1 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:04 pm

Does anyone have a change at law school?

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:25 pm

zot1 wrote:Does anyone have a change at law school?


Yes, actually. My buddy went to Berkeley as an ardent Reagon supporter and came out wearing Elizabeth Warren t-shirts.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby zot1 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:34 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
zot1 wrote:Does anyone have a change at law school?


Yes, actually. My buddy went to Berkeley as an ardent Reagon supporter and came out wearing Elizabeth Warren t-shirts.


Was the typo intentional or nah?

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby luckyirish13 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:35 pm

No you don't have a change at law school. You don't have a chance either, if your spelling and grammar don't drastically improve.

Jack01 wrote:I am currently a undergrad senior with one more semester left at my undergrads college.Freshman year I took two courses Biology and Chemistry and failed,which landed me on academic probation.I wanted to retake at least my biology course but due to poor advisement from one of the school advisors,was told that I wouldn't be able to stay in school ,but found out I was able to stay in school but by then the BIO class was full.The weird thing was that when I went to another advisor ,the advisor ran into the room and trying to explain his mistake.The new advisor told me that I should take easy courses to get off of academic probation,so this semester that what I did (plus I wasn't able to take BiO).I am also scheduled to take the LSAT in June and if I do not like my grade, I plan to take it again September.
First, you need to learn how to put a space in between a period and the start of a new sentence. Second, learn when to use a/an. Third, you need to learn how to explain what caused your academic probation better, because if you wrote whatever the heck this jumbled mangle of a paragraph was for an addendum to law schools, you'd have absolutely no change at law school :P.

Jack01 wrote:I wanted to ask two question
1)Does it make sense to apply to law school?
2)Should I reatke both the fail courses or at least one of them?
3)I heard about splitter friendly schools and I was wanted to know if that would apply to me ?
4)I wanted to know if there were things that I could to make myself look better for law school,personal letters,recommendations,etc.
5)Should I apply for a post bac
Also learn how to count. If you wanted to ask two question[s], maybe don't ask 5 questions.

Ok to answer those questions (and I'm a 0L, full disclosure)
1. If you get a good LSAT, meaning in the 170's, then yes. Otherwise no.
2. You should "retake" whatever classes you have to in order to make your grades be the highest they can be. Law schools will primarily look at your LSAT score and your GPA. Bring up your GPA before you graduate if you want to have a chance.
3. You "was wanted to know" if splitter schools would apply to your situation. Right now, they have absolutely nothing to do with you because you aren't a splitter. You don't have an LSAT score so you don't even know if you'll be a splitter. But if you attack the LSAT studying and then get a great score, then yes you will probably be a splitter. Go to http://mylsn.info/r/pre-law/admissions/search/, enter your GPA and LSAT score, and see how others have done at getting into schools with similar numbers. That will tell you what schools are open to applicants like you.
4. Get a great LSAT score. That is far and away the most important thing you can do, followed by upping your GPA as much as possible in this last semester. The other things can matter, but they are very very very small in comparison to LSAT and GPA.
5. I mean I suppose it couldn't hurt, but that shouldn't be your focus. Your focus needs to be on LSAT, GPA, and learning to read and write.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:36 pm

zot1 wrote:
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
zot1 wrote:Does anyone have a change at law school?


Yes, actually. My buddy went to Berkeley as an ardent Reagon supporter and came out wearing Elizabeth Warren t-shirts.


Was the typo intentional or nah?


Oh oops, *Reagan

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby zot1 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:38 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:No you don't have a change at law school. You don't have a chance either, if your spelling and grammar don't drastically improve.

Jack01 wrote:I am currently a undergrad senior with one more semester left at my undergrads college.Freshman year I took two courses Biology and Chemistry and failed,which landed me on academic probation.I wanted to retake at least my biology course but due to poor advisement from one of the school advisors,was told that I wouldn't be able to stay in school ,but found out I was able to stay in school but by then the BIO class was full.The weird thing was that when I went to another advisor ,the advisor ran into the room and trying to explain his mistake.The new advisor told me that I should take easy courses to get off of academic probation,so this semester that what I did (plus I wasn't able to take BiO).I am also scheduled to take the LSAT in June and if I do not like my grade, I plan to take it again September.
First, you need to learn how to put a space in between a period and the start of a new sentence. Second, learn when to use a/an. Third, you need to learn how to explain what caused your academic probation better, because if you wrote whatever the heck this jumbled mangle of a paragraph was for an addendum to law schools, you'd have absolutely no change at law school :P.

Jack01 wrote:I wanted to ask two question
1)Does it make sense to apply to law school?
2)Should I reatke both the fail courses or at least one of them?
3)I heard about splitter friendly schools and I was wanted to know if that would apply to me ?
4)I wanted to know if there were things that I could to make myself look better for law school,personal letters,recommendations,etc.
5)Should I apply for a post bac


Also learn how to count. If you wanted to ask two question[s], maybe don't ask 5 questions.


It's one thing to joke about someone making a typo on an online forum, another to deduce this makes them unqualified to go to law school.
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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby RCSOB657 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:41 pm

You wouldn't be on academic probation during your senior year if you only pulled 2 fs as a freshman. Something else is going on here.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby luckyirish13 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:49 pm

zot1 wrote:It's one thing to joke about someone making a typo on an online forum, another to deduce this makes them unqualified to go to law school.
1. My post was dripping in sarcasm. The point was that OP really needs to work on his writing/grammar in order to get into and then be successful at law school. Maybe OP is brilliant, or maybe he's a fool. I don't know. But if OP wants a chance, he needs to work on his writing. There's going to be a shit ton of reading and writing in his future if he chooses law. 2. I did give actual advice to OP, in the answers to his 5 questions. If he wants to have a change at law school, he needs to focus on the LSAT, upping his GPA, and learning to write in English.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby zot1 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:08 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:
zot1 wrote:It's one thing to joke about someone making a typo on an online forum, another to deduce this makes them unqualified to go to law school.
1. My post was dripping in sarcasm. The point was that OP really needs to work on his writing/grammar in order to get into and then be successful at law school. Maybe OP is brilliant, or maybe he's a fool. I don't know. But if OP wants a chance, he needs to work on his writing. There's going to be a shit ton of reading and writing in his future if he chooses law. 2. I did give actual advice to OP, in the answers to his 5 questions. If he wants to have a change at law school, he needs to focus on the LSAT, upping his GPA, and learning to write in English.


You should work on your sarcasm. Otherwise, you should not go to law school.

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Re: Do I still have a change at law school

Postby vcap180 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:18 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:
zot1 wrote:It's one thing to joke about someone making a typo on an online forum, another to deduce this makes them unqualified to go to law school.
1. My post was dripping in sarcasm. The point was that OP really needs to work on his writing/grammar in order to get into and then be successful at law school. Maybe OP is brilliant, or maybe he's a fool. I don't know. But if OP wants a chance, he needs to work on his writing. There's going to be a shit ton of reading and writing in his future if he chooses law. 2. I did give actual advice to OP, in the answers to his 5 questions. If he wants to have a change at law school, he needs to focus on the LSAT, upping his GPA, and learning to write in English.


To be honest, OP's syntax makes me wonder certain things; I don't think sarcasm is the right path to reach OP - s/he definitely needs to hear the harsh reality of law school, but I'd be a bit more delicate here. Take from that what you will.



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