Keep Telling People to Retake

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Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby zot1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:59 am

As this might be a beneficial step for some applicants.

Unemployment isn't fun. Debt isn't fun. Getting locked into a career for 20 years to pay loans back isn't fun. Waiting for the day the government will take repayment programs away isn't fun. Making less money than you did before getting into debt for law school isn't fun. Reviewing papers for typos isn't fun.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby ponderingmeerkat » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:03 pm

The thread TLS needs right now...

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby albinododobird » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:28 pm

Maybe also tell people not to go to law school, while we're at it.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby Stylnator » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:32 pm

zot1 wrote:As this might be a beneficial step for some applicants.

Unemployment isn't fun. Debt isn't fun. Getting locked into a career for 20 years to pay loans back isn't fun. Waiting for the day the government will take repayment programs away isn't fun. Making less money than you did before getting into debt for law school isn't fun. Reviewing papers for typos isn't fun.


I just got my pay raise + bonus today and let me tell you that this is what I'm most scared of. The average for the field I want to go in is about 30k less than I make now.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby zot1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:16 pm

albinododobird wrote:Maybe also tell people not to go to law school, while we're at it.


Law school is a great option for some people.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby zot1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:32 pm

Even people at the top struggle. Imagine being at the bottom... with tons of debt.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby mtf612 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:38 pm

zot1 wrote:
albinododobird wrote:Maybe also tell people not to go to law school, while we're at it.


Law school is a great option for some people.


Certainly. however, some people will be making the worst decision of their life by attending law school. I have a friend at work who has been studying for the LSAT for nearly one year. They are a very genuine person and I like them, but I just think law school is a terrible choice for them. After a year of studying, including different classes, books, and a tutor, they are failing to break into the mid 140s. Coupled with their sub 3.0 GPA, this person will only have extremely risky law school options. I've tried counseling them to consider alternative paths, but their family/culture is forcing them down the law school path.

It hurts to see this person likely hanging themselves with debt for a career that will likely never pan out.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby zot1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:49 pm

mtf612 wrote:
zot1 wrote:
albinododobird wrote:Maybe also tell people not to go to law school, while we're at it.


Law school is a great option for some people.


Certainly. however, some people will be making the worst decision of their life by attending law school. I have a friend at work who has been studying for the LSAT for nearly one year. They are a very genuine person and I like them, but I just think law school is a terrible choice for them. After a year of studying, including different classes, books, and a tutor, they are failing to break into the mid 140s. Coupled with their sub 3.0 GPA, this person will only have extremely risky law school options. I've tried counseling them to consider alternative paths, but their family/culture is forcing them down the law school path.

It hurts to see this person likely hanging themselves with debt for a career that will likely never pan out.


That's fine. But I can't just tell people "don't go to law school," when it's a good choice for some. Some. Some. Some. Some.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby zot1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:50 pm

But also: the skills you learn for the lsat are not the same for law school. Also, success in law school =/= success in practice. So yeah I'm not sure where you're going with that.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby mtf612 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:51 pm

zot1 wrote:
mtf612 wrote:
zot1 wrote:
albinododobird wrote:Maybe also tell people not to go to law school, while we're at it.


Law school is a great option for some people.


Certainly. however, some people will be making the worst decision of their life by attending law school. I have a friend at work who has been studying for the LSAT for nearly one year. They are a very genuine person and I like them, but I just think law school is a terrible choice for them. After a year of studying, including different classes, books, and a tutor, they are failing to break into the mid 140s. Coupled with their sub 3.0 GPA, this person will only have extremely risky law school options. I've tried counseling them to consider alternative paths, but their family/culture is forcing them down the law school path.

It hurts to see this person likely hanging themselves with debt for a career that will likely never pan out.


That's fine. But I can't just tell people "don't go to law school," when it's a good choice for some. Some. Some. Some. Some.


Some! I totally agree. I am more venting about my friend because I have no idea what else I can say other than "may the odds be ever in your favor."

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby Capt_Beatty » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:01 pm

LOL @ that one movie where the smart kid from southie works as a janitor at that one law school, one day as he's sullenly trudging through the halls, mopping up, he notices an impossible argument written on the chalkboard. he drops his well-oiled pine mop handle and jots down constitutional reference after constitutional reference, pulling abstracts from 17 different relevant cases. the next day the class is full and everyone wonders....

ok the moral of that story is, the janitor didn't retake ok. he took his 145 to Umass, graduated and couldn't find a job. He only got that janitor's position because of an old friend who was an alum. If you need motivation or are wondering if you should retake, go watch that movie.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:12 am

good thread

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby star fox » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:34 am

Goodwill Hunting is a really solid film.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby Hikikomorist » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:41 am

Capt_Beatty wrote:LOL @ that one movie where the smart kid from southie works as a janitor at that one law school, one day as he's sullenly trudging through the halls, mopping up, he notices an impossible argument written on the chalkboard. he drops his well-oiled pine mop handle and jots down constitutional reference after constitutional reference, pulling abstracts from 17 different relevant cases. the next day the class is full and everyone wonders....

ok the moral of that story is, the janitor didn't retake ok. he took his 145 to Umass, graduated and couldn't find a job. He only got that janitor's position because of an old friend who was an alum. If you need motivation or are wondering if you should retake, go watch that movie.

It would have been way less impressive if he had been solving legal problems.

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Re: Keep Telling People to Retake

Postby BlendedUnicorn » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:10 am

Hikikomorist wrote:
Capt_Beatty wrote:LOL @ that one movie where the smart kid from southie works as a janitor at that one law school, one day as he's sullenly trudging through the halls, mopping up, he notices an impossible argument written on the chalkboard. he drops his well-oiled pine mop handle and jots down constitutional reference after constitutional reference, pulling abstracts from 17 different relevant cases. the next day the class is full and everyone wonders....

ok the moral of that story is, the janitor didn't retake ok. he took his 145 to Umass, graduated and couldn't find a job. He only got that janitor's position because of an old friend who was an alum. If you need motivation or are wondering if you should retake, go watch that movie.

It would have been way less impressive if he had been solving legal problems.


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