Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby rpupkin » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:12 am

BigZuck wrote:So it would be:
1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Columbia
5. Michigan
6. Berkeley
6. Virginia
8. Cornell
8. Duke
10. Penn
10. GULC

Who are you, and what have you done with BigZuck?

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby BigZuck » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:17 am

rpupkin wrote:
BigZuck wrote:So it would be:
1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Columbia
5. Michigan
6. Berkeley
6. Virginia
8. Cornell
8. Duke
10. Penn
10. GULC

Who are you, and what have you done with BigZuck?

Just a guy having a little fun ITT, nothing wrong with that!

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Ferrisjso » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:45 am

BigZuck wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Ferrisjso wrote:Shouldn't it be the T16 then to include UCLA and UT who both have made it into the T14 at least once?

No. I don't like the idea of polluting the top tier with regional schools. Frankly, the T14 should be slimmed down, not fattened up. I've long championed the idea of setting the "prestige" cutoff based on the T10 of the year 2000. That was the year that the rankings got the most attention and best response rates—everyone wanted to get the important "millennial" rankings correct. Here are the top 20 schools that year:

1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. NYU
5. Columbia
6. Chicago
7. Michigan
8. Berkeley
8. Virginia
10. Cornell
10. Duke

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12. Northwestern
12. Penn
14. GULC
15. Texas
16. UCLA
17. USC
18. Vanderbilt
19. Minnesota
20. Washington and Lee

My problem with the top 10 above is that I have a hard time considering middling state schools being elite at anything. Drop Chicago and NYU from that list and bump up Penn (I know, also a middling state school but they had a good football program at one point at least) and Georgetown (located in DC which is the most prestigious city in the US and technically a law center which sounds pretty neat to me) then I could live with it.

So it would be:
1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Columbia
5. Michigan
6. Berkeley
6. Virginia
8. Cornell
8. Duke
10. Penn
10. GULC


I thought you were serious there for a minute lol. I tend to view private schools as being better education wise in terms of quality but most private schools are smaller than their public counterparts(at UG, clearly Harvard and GULC have the population edge among elite law schools) and have alot less class options as a result. You need a lot of classes to keep places with 15-20,000 students running smoothly, not so with alot of these private schools(clearly there are exceptions) especially the LAC's. I personally would pick the public(again we're talking UG here because you said, "anything").

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Pomeranian » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:31 am

Well, not that these rankings mean much, but since someones apparently seen a leaked copy, it's likely going to appear any day now...

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby goldenbear2020 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:45 am

Based on a combo of prestige and biglaw/clerkship placement:
1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chicago
6. NYU
7. Penn
8. Duke
9. Northwestern
10. Cornell
11. Virginia
12. Michigan
13. Berkeley
14. GULC

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby BruiseWillis » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:34 am

Rigo wrote:Here you go
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Woah

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:35 am

BruiseWillis wrote:
Rigo wrote:Here you go
==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Woah

I made a separate thread just now since the link is buried in this thread.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby saf18hornet » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:05 am

BruiseWillis wrote:
Rigo wrote:Here you go
==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Woah


Hm, these don't exactly match the tips from page 1 of this thread. Mainly, I don't see a school up 6 spots into the top 20. Expected to see Berkeley fall hard, especially after last year's scandal.

What's going on at W&L that jumped them up 12 spots into the top 30!?

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby lymenheimer » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:10 am

saf18hornet wrote:
BruiseWillis wrote:
Rigo wrote:Here you go
==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Woah


Hm, these don't exactly match the tips from page 1 of this thread. Mainly, I don't see a school up 6 spots into the top 20.

They give each tip one piece of false information that way they can follow the leak to the original source and murder that person. R[I]Pumpkin.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:10 am

saf18hornet wrote:Expected to see Berkeley fall hard, especially after last year's scandal.

I was pretty inactive on TLS last year and missed this.
What happened?

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby saf18hornet » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:13 am

Rigo wrote:
saf18hornet wrote:Expected to see Berkeley fall hard, especially after last year's scandal.

I was pretty inactive on TLS last year and missed this.
What happened?


Sex Scandal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... 404e7adf0d

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:17 am

saf18hornet wrote:Sex Scandal

Ooo thank you. Yeah that ain't right.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby LawBuckeye12 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:22 am

saf18hornet wrote:
BruiseWillis wrote:
Rigo wrote:Here you go
==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Woah


Hm, these don't exactly match the tips from page 1 of this thread. Mainly, I don't see a school up 6 spots into the top 20. Expected to see Berkeley fall hard, especially after last year's scandal.

What's going on at W&L that jumped them up 12 spots into the top 30!?

Their jobs numbers were pretty solid last year.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby xn3345 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:51 am

cavalier1138 wrote:
xn3345 wrote:People seem to think Columbia over Chi. Anybody care to say why? Seems like Chi has higher/equal medians and clerkship numbers, esp. as of recently.


Columbia raised their LSAT numbers this year so that their 25/50/75 are all 2 points higher than Chicago. Chicago still kept the GPA higher, but LSAT is weighted more, and since USNWR weights medians pretty heavily, there's a good chance Columbia will get to keep the number 4 spot to itself.


HA!

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby FunandFriendship » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:56 am

Posted a few days early:

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby lymenheimer » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:06 pm

FunandFriendship wrote:Posted a few days early:

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


(Didn't read the thread)

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Stevie_Rave_On » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:56 pm

FunandFriendship wrote:Posted a few days early:

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


Wonder whatever happened to UC Irvine's lofty goal of breaching the top 20.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby goldenbear2020 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:58 pm

Stevie_Rave_On wrote:
FunandFriendship wrote:Posted a few days early:

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


Wonder whatever happened to UC Irvine's lofty goal of breaching the top 20.

IMO, the fact that they beat UCD and UCH is already a win.

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby candidlatke » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:16 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
Stevie_Rave_On wrote:
FunandFriendship wrote:Posted a few days early:

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


Wonder whatever happened to UC Irvine's lofty goal of breaching the top 20.

IMO, the fact that they beat UCD and UCH is already a win.


for the amount of $ and brand names they were heaping into the school i really thought it would be doing a bit better

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Re: Just for fun-- Predictions: 2018 USN Law School Rankings

Postby Stevie_Rave_On » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:20 pm

candidlatke wrote:
goldenbear2020 wrote:
Stevie_Rave_On wrote:
FunandFriendship wrote:Posted a few days early:

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


Wonder whatever happened to UC Irvine's lofty goal of breaching the top 20.

IMO, the fact that they beat UCD and UCH is already a win.


for the amount of $ and brand names they were heaping into the school i really thought it would be doing a bit better


Yeah. When someone said there was a surprising jump up from a Top 30 school, I truthfully thought it'd be UCI.



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