Ferrisjso wrote:Heres my solution to reduce the retake harassment on here.
Lets just limit retake advice to the what are my chances" thread. People present their numbers and options and people judge accordingly. There is no reason for people to present their numbers in the "choosing a law school" thread as presenting ones numbers just gives people an excuse not to answer the question. If people stop giving their numbers when theyre not needed, people will be more likely to answer the question and lay off the rude retake/reapply bullying which often isnt even neccessary. After a while we can hopefully get more of a diverse population thats less dominated by T14(T13) kids who have very different goals(and thus metrics for success) than the vast majority of law school applicants.
Lets make a friendlier forum where everyone is welcome and people can get advice from people in different situations not just the objectively elite!
welcome here, and plenty of us didn't go to T14 schools. And if people are clear about their goals, then posters here respond accordingly. If those goals don't match their options, people should know that. In the end it's still down to the individual person to decide what kind of risk they want to take wrt cost and debt and employment options.
So really the problem isn't telling posters to retake. It's people having unrealistic expectations about what they can achieve with a given degree. It's fine for someone to take out acres of debt for a Cal Western degree if they really decide they understand all the risks and are willing to take them. It's their life and TLS is just a bunch of strangers on the internet. The problem is that a lot of people making those choices don't actually understand the risks they face, whether through lack of knowledge of how law school/legal hiring/debt/etc works, or through confirmation bias and wishful thinking.
The thing is, someone's best option still may not give them a good chance of achieving what they want to achieve out of law school. The appropriate response to such a person isn't "take the best of your options," it's "find a different option."
(I say this as someone who would be told a gazillion times to retake if I was posting about my choices now. And I have had an objectively really good outcome from my not-top school. But I still should have retaken. I'd probably have still gone to the school I chose, because I had personal reasons for being in that location, but I could have gone without debt, or with less debt, which would have made my outcome better. And I wouldn't tell someone to gamble the way I did.)