Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

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With your profile, Early Decision is likely to get you into UC Davis

Poll ended at Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:59 pm

Yes, ED WILL probably get you in.
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17%
No, ED will NOT get you in.
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83%
 
Total votes: 6

mrtimothyirvine

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Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:59 pm

My question:
How much would a binding Early Decision (ED) help my chances of getting into my goal school, UC Davis?

I will receive a 100% tuition waiver with the CA VA Fee Waiver (see bottom if unclear), I am from the CA Central Valley and NorCal, and I intend to stay and work in the area.
So, all the arguments about cost v. salary, it being lower-ranked, etc, I am aware of those and not concerned.

I have taken ten practice LSATs and just finished the (AWFUL, and NOT RECOMMENDED) TestMasters 2-month summer course.

My LSAT will be between 156 and 160.
I have very "strong softs," including being LGBTQ, a family member in the military and w. PTSD/disabilities, and extensive activist experience.

My Stats:
Goal: UC Davis, from area and intend to stay
Second-choice: UC Hastings
LSAT: 156-158
LSDAS GPA (Film and Digital Media UCSC): 3.56
MA (Global and Intl Studies UCSB) GPA: 3.98
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Political organizing
Student government
Labor and immigration policy
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MA, Global and International Studies
(3.98 graduate GPA)
2 yrs NGO work, American Red Cross
1 yr AmeriCorps
LGBTQ
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Father's a disabled veteran = tuition waived at CA public schools
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My profiles:
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http://lawschoolnumbers.com/mrtimothyirvine
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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby BigZuck » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:15 pm

What do you intend to do with a law degree?

mrtimothyirvine

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:17 pm

BigZuck wrote:What do you intend to do with a law degree?

Why is answering this question relevant for the purposes of this query?

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby BNA » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:21 pm

TLS is not going to appreciate your superiority.

mrtimothyirvine

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:26 pm

BNA wrote:TLS is not going to appreciate your superiority.


How should I reply without understanding the relevance or specificity of the query..?

From my initial post:
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I am from the CA Central Valley and NorCal, and I intend to stay and work in the area....[I have] extensive activist experience...
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If I need to be more specific, I'm interested in public interest relating to immigration/refugee labor.
I'm particularly interested in the way that women's labor rights are defined in different contexts.
Ideally, I would spend significant time doing advocacy work for immigrant and refugee women within NorCal, specifically the major metro areas of SF and Sacramento.

mrtimothyirvine

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:44 pm

I'm going to move it over to "What Are My Chances?" as that is probably more appropriate.

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby BigZuck » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:52 pm

Query?

I was wondering "Why law school?" because there might be better ways to achieve your career goals that allows you to skip the whole law school thing altogether.

mrtimothyirvine

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:11 pm

BigZuck wrote:Query?

Query = question / request / etc

BigZuck wrote:I was wondering "Why law school?" because there might be better ways to achieve your career goals that allows you to skip the whole law school thing altogether.


Confirmed. I figured, just wasn't sure that was the reason for asking; I've also answered that question a lot.

Given the fact that a JD is much more respected in both industry and academia, and that a JD takes only 3 years (compared to 6-10 for a PhD), and because I can mitigate the cost extensively with the fee waiver, a JD makes sense for a terminal degree and credential that empowers me to do extensive political-/lobby-related work, as well as possible future legislative-/policy-creation work.

Furthermore, after extensive talks with lawyers (even those drowning in debt after TTT experiences) I am convinced that either practicing law OR using the JD to advance an organization related to law is what I want to do career-wise.

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby HYPSM » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:06 pm

Hi Timothy,

I've input your numbers into "MyLSN," an extremely useful resource that can calculate your chances of admission to various schools (based on many data points).

http://mylsn.info/pvdjub/

Feel free to play around with it; I've changed the settings to include ED applicants.

Unfortunately, your LSAT score and GPA will be weighed much, much more heavily than your other "soft" factors (grad school GPA, extra-curriculars, etc.) (Law school is mainly a numbers game.)

I think you'd be in good shape if your LSAT score was a bit higher (for RD or ED).

Happy to answer any more question you may have.

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby mrtimothyirvine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:15 pm

HYPSM wrote:Hi Timothy,

I've input your numbers into "MyLSN," an extremely useful resource that can calculate your chances of admission to various schools (based on many data points).


Thank you - I've spent this week leading up to the Sept LSAT obsessing over MyLSN.

HYPSM wrote:I've changed the settings to include ED applicants.

I couldn't figure out how to view ED only, thank you very much!

HYPSM wrote:Unfortunately, your LSAT score and GPA will be weighed much, much more heavily than your other "soft" factors (grad school GPA, extra-curriculars, etc.) (Law school is mainly a numbers game.)

I'm sadly aware. 24 hours from now I'll have a feel for how my studying I must do for the Dec test.

Do you have any thoughts on ED chances for UCD, other than the LSN insights? I really appreciate your response.

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Re: Early Decision, Davis. 157 LSAT 3.6 UG GPA, Master's

Postby HYPSM » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:12 am

mrtimothyirvine wrote:
HYPSM wrote:Hi Timothy,

I've input your numbers into "MyLSN," an extremely useful resource that can calculate your chances of admission to various schools (based on many data points).


Thank you - I've spent this week leading up to the Sept LSAT obsessing over MyLSN.

HYPSM wrote:I've changed the settings to include ED applicants.

I couldn't figure out how to view ED only, thank you very much!

HYPSM wrote:Unfortunately, your LSAT score and GPA will be weighed much, much more heavily than your other "soft" factors (grad school GPA, extra-curriculars, etc.) (Law school is mainly a numbers game.)

I'm sadly aware. 24 hours from now I'll have a feel for how my studying I must do for the Dec test.

Do you have any thoughts on ED chances for UCD, other than the LSN insights? I really appreciate your response.


No problem, it's my pleasure!

I actually think your particular softs may be quite helpful for law schools admissions and for your ED application to UCD; you sound like a rather interesting candidate. If they are on the fence about you, I have a feeling the distinctive factors of your background might push you over to the admit pile. That being said, I feel it would be unwise to take such a gamble when you could virtually eliminate any such risk with a few more points on the LSAT. Admittedly, this will take some extra effort on your part, but I can almost guarantee it will pay off -- you may even end up saving tens of thousands of dollars through scholarships!

In short, raise your LSAT score a little bit and you have a fantastic chance at UCD. If that is not possible for some reason, highlight what you've mentioned in your original post and apply as early as possible -- and broadly (just in case).

Good luck!



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