Who's Outperformed Their Numbers? Forum

[FredTheFish]

But that does raise the question of what exactly would be considered outperforming, below median with both numbers? below 25th?

Non-urm getting in with both numbers below median would be outperforming. Or with one number below a school's traditional floor.

Agreed. This was more of what I was looking for. Also if you were maybe slightly over median in one, but around the 25th or a little below in another (~50/~25). Even if someone got in off the waitlist, i'd be interested to hear a few success stories.

[El Pollito]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

[Bluex12]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

I guess generally it's much easier than in years past. But still, T14 is T14. I was pleasantly surprised.

[Clearly]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

I guess generally it's much easier than in years past. But still, T14 is T14. I was pleasantly surprised.

I would have bet everything I have that you'd get into Michigan.

[DLM17]

I would be interested to hear from someone who outperformed their numbers and demolished 1L .. like bam I had low numbers AND finished top of my class.

[Nachoo2019]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

I guess generally it's much easier than in years past. But still, T14 is T14. I was pleasantly surprised.

I would have bet everything I have that you'd get into Michigan.

+1

but i would go even farther and say you would have gotten in to Michigan with a 3.0

[FredTheFish]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

I guess generally it's much easier than in years past. But still, T14 is T14. I was pleasantly surprised.

I would have bet everything I have that you'd get into Michigan.

+1

but i would go even farther and say you would have gotten in to Michigan with a 3.0

I'll go further and say at least one T14 would accept you if you had a 2.5/170+, as long as you decent reasons why your GPA was that low (maybe you were in undergrad 10 years ago and young and stupid but turned your life around since).

[Hikikomorist]

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[Nagster5]

3.3/172 KJD. In at Michigan so far. Surprised to see a T14 acceptance at all honestly, I figured I sunk my T14 hopes with my crap GPA. But I guess LSAT can be a big game-changer!

are you kidding? it's super easy to get into law school now

I guess generally it's much easier than in years past. But still, T14 is T14. I was pleasantly surprised.

I would have bet everything I have that you'd get into Michigan.

+1

but i would go even farther and say you would have gotten in to Michigan with a 3.0

I'll go further and say at least one T14 would accept you if you had a 2.5/170+, as long as you decent reasons why your GPA was that low (maybe you were in undergrad 10 years ago and young and stupid but turned your life around since).

I'm 2/2 in the T14 (GULC and UVA) so far with a 2.7. I have really good reasons and WE though, and my LSAT is > all 75ths.

[MDguy]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

[lymenheimer]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I realize that you got into the school, but this is for comparing those who got into the law school.

[Nachoo2019]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

[MDguy]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I realize that you got into the school, but this is for comparing those who got into the law school.

I'm talking about law schools I got into?

[MDguy]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

Yeah I know. I applied and got into law school, trying to do MD/JD

[cranburial]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

Yeah I know. I applied and got into law school, trying to do MD/JD

With no LSAT? How?

[Nachoo2019]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

Yeah I know. I applied and got into law school, trying to do MD/JD

Makes much more sense... my apologies. It is going to be tough for people to give you accurate advice. I have yet to see someone even remotely close to your situation. especially without an LSAT score

[Shib26]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

Yeah I know. I applied and got into law school, trying to do MD/JD

Makes much more sense... my apologies. It is going to be tough for people to give you accurate advice. I have yet to see someone even remotely close to your situation. especially without an LSAT score

Yeah I don't even know how to evaluate that. I might have said yes you outperformed, but the fact that you went 3 for 3 at HYS and 7 other t14s indicates that there's something beyond the typical formula.

[MDguy]

With no LSAT? How?

Apparently, the predictive nature of the MCAT is accurate enough for law schools to waive the LSAT for med students applying out. Same for GRE/GMAT for Master's/MBA. YLS specifically said they used to require it until everyone above a certain MCAT always broke 170 so they stopped wasting the time.

Makes much more sense... my apologies. It is going to be tough for people to give you accurate advice. I have yet to see someone even remotely close to your situation. especially without an LSAT score

Yeah I don't even know how to evaluate that. I might have said yes you outperformed, but the fact that you went 3 for 3 at HYS and 7 other t14s indicates that there's something beyond the typical formula.

Damn, okay thanks guys. But what if for the sake of argument I had a 171, a 97th LSAT? Since my MCAT was 97th. So 3.7/171 with amazing softs (if I count my top MD as a soft lol?). What's the current scholly market rate to expect/ask for?

[Hornet2011]

Depends on the school but HYS does not do merit scholarships

[FredTheFish]

With no LSAT? How?

Apparently, the predictive nature of the MCAT is accurate enough for law schools to waive the LSAT for med students applying out. Same for GRE/GMAT for Master's/MBA. YLS specifically said they used to require it until everyone above a certain MCAT always broke 170 so they stopped wasting the time.

Makes much more sense... my apologies. It is going to be tough for people to give you accurate advice. I have yet to see someone even remotely close to your situation. especially without an LSAT score

Yeah I don't even know how to evaluate that. I might have said yes you outperformed, but the fact that you went 3 for 3 at HYS and 7 other t14s indicates that there's something beyond the typical formula.

Damn, okay thanks guys. But what if for the sake of argument I had a 171, a 97th LSAT? Since my MCAT was 97th. So 3.7/171 with amazing softs (if I count my top MD as a soft lol?). What's the current scholly market rate to expect/ask for?

Going off that scenario, then you very much outperformed your numbers. Check out mylsn.com for more details. Also, as someone who did pre-med as an undergrad, and was intrigued about doing MD/JD, what made you decide to do both and are you worried it is going to be an insane amount of work?

[lymenheimer]

Do I count as overperformed? In med school, 3.71, no LSAT, 97%ile MCAT, 2 yr WE, good softs, 1 mid impact LR pub. In at HYS and 7 other T14s. Thought I had no chance at T6 but very pleasantly surprised bob now getting in this early with a mediocre GPA.

Any idea how much money I can bargain for? Totally new to this, MD is not so numbers-driven. Is HYS with FA-only loans/scholly worth it over other T14s with more money if the end goal is health policy?

I am confused... this is a law school forum. Hence "TOP-LAW-SCHOOLS.COM"

Yeah I know. I applied and got into law school, trying to do MD/JD

Would like to see the language you received waiving your lsat. From duke: "all jd applicants must have an lsat score. All md applicants must have an mcat"

[MDguy]

Depends on the school but HYS does not do merit scholarships

Yeah I know that. Which is why I'm only asking about merit. I'm dirt poor, gonna get that sweet FA

Going off that scenario, then you very much outperformed your numbers. Check out mylsn.com for more details. Also, as someone who did pre-med as an undergrad, and was intrigued about doing MD/JD, what made you decide to do both and are you worried it is going to be an insane amount of work?

I'm not sure yet. Just trying to get as much info as possible. See my other thread...I'm most likely going to go MPP instead but since I have the options I'm gonna explore it

Would like to see the language you received waiving your lsat. From duke: "all jd applicants must have an lsat score. All md applicants must have an mcat"

Hence I did not apply to Duke JD; I only did Sanford's MPP. Same goes for the rest of the T14; they would not waive it or I would've blanketed all of them because I didn't think I stood a chance at half of them. HYS + B was no questions asked, MVPN required petitioning through my med school but it went through.

[KiltedKicker]

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[Alive97]

If I get in off the priority waitlist it will be with <25/just above 25 (lower t14). I will be sure to promptly inform this thread.

[mimimimi]

So far this post is disheartening!