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Hey guys, I am an engineer by qualification and for the last couple months, I have not been working. The company I worked for ran out of work, and was trying to force a lot of the employees into taking temp positions elsewhere as technicians, so a lot of us quit to save our resumes. What if I do not find a job for another 6 months? How does it impact my admission prospects? I have been working as an engineer for more than 12 years and I do not have any other gaps in my resume.
I would appreciate your input.
I would appreciate your input.
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Won't really matter. The 12 years will be a plus, if anything.
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Thanks.Rigo wrote:Won't really matter. The 12 years will be a plus, if anything.
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Plenty of IP lawyers have significant backgrounds in the hard sciences...and there's a shortage of IP lawyers...and they can make lots and lots of money...and some people genuinely enjoy IP work (perhaps as an in-house as a patent author, or as a litigator on behalf of behemoth companies...or even on the other side of the fence in Big Fed)Desert Fox wrote:
1) Go find a job
2) Don't go to law school.
I'm assuming OP is interested in IP law, based off of their stated background. Kind of curious what they're interested in, if not.
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Re: Impact on Admission: Loss of Employment
Hilarious when he does better on lsat than you, fox.Desert Fox wrote:1) Go find a jobgoldoldman wrote:Hey guys, I am an engineer by qualification and for the last couple months, I have not been working. The company I worked for ran out of work, and was trying to force a lot of the employees into taking temp positions elsewhere as technicians, so a lot of us quit to save our resumes. What if I do not find a job for another 6 months? How does it impact my admission prospects? I have been working as an engineer for more than 12 years and I do not have any other gaps in my resume.
I would appreciate your input.
2) Don't go to law school.
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If TLS has hit the point where we're advising people that 12 years of engineering experience and a 176 isn't enough to go to law school, maybe we should take the retake out of "retake or don't go."Desert Fox wrote:Well, he'd have to do better than 176.iamapipersson wrote:Hilarious when he does better on lsat than you, fox.Desert Fox wrote:1) Go find a jobgoldoldman wrote:Hey guys, I am an engineer by qualification and for the last couple months, I have not been working. The company I worked for ran out of work, and was trying to force a lot of the employees into taking temp positions elsewhere as technicians, so a lot of us quit to save our resumes. What if I do not find a job for another 6 months? How does it impact my admission prospects? I have been working as an engineer for more than 12 years and I do not have any other gaps in my resume.
I would appreciate your input.
2) Don't go to law school.
But I'm not saying he's stupid or can't get a biglaw job. I'm sure he could. It's just not worth it.
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OP hasn't taken the LSAT yet and has an international GPA, which tend to under-perform in admissions IIRC. I think DF is saying that the better value move for OP is to just continue being an engineer with a decade of experience.MarkinKansasCity wrote:If TLS has hit the point where we're advising people that 12 years of engineering experience and a 176 isn't enough to go to law school, maybe we should take the retake out of "retake or don't go."
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I kinda got that. I just made the quip because apparently maxing out the LSAT at this point still doesn't make law school a no-brainer.North wrote:OP hasn't taken the LSAT yet and has an international GPA, which tend to under-perform in admissions IIRC. I think DF is saying that the better value move for OP is to just continue being an engineer with a decade of experience.MarkinKansasCity wrote:If TLS has hit the point where we're advising people that 12 years of engineering experience and a 176 isn't enough to go to law school, maybe we should take the retake out of "retake or don't go."
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I think DF's also referring to the brutal hours relative to the pay, uncertain career life given how people start getting pushed out after only a couple years, and just the general uncertainty as to whether any of us will still have jobs year to year anymore given the uncertain legal economy?
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TLS made me turn interest, ideal, etc. into a financial spreadsheet, which is a solid perspective, but sometimes people seem to overdo it.
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I have been advised not to think too much about the eventual specialty as apparently a year or so in law school is usually instructive in making that decision. I have not done much coding, if any, during the last decade, and that might be an impediment in becoming an expert at IP law.Dishydiana wrote:Plenty of IP lawyers have significant backgrounds in the hard sciences...and there's a shortage of IP lawyers...and they can make lots and lots of money...and some people genuinely enjoy IP work (perhaps as an in-house as a patent author, or as a litigator on behalf of behemoth companies...or even on the other side of the fence in Big Fed)Desert Fox wrote:
1) Go find a job
2) Don't go to law school.
I'm assuming OP is interested in IP law, based off of their stated background. Kind of curious what they're interested in, if not.
I am more interested in M&A in NYC or LA.
My background is in environmental engineering. I hope the worst case scenario would be that I join the EPA as an environmental lawyer.
Any thoughts?
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Desert Fox wrote:The math doesn't work out. The dood is probably 35.
We are talking about 200k in debt and interest. Another 200k in opportunity cost.
It'll take me basically 4 years to just get back to ZERO net worth. Another 1-2 to be debt free. I may never to where I'd be if I just was an engineer from the get go.
And that's not even considering the fact that I work 50% more than I would have.
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+1MarkinKansasCity wrote:If TLS has hit the point where we're advising people that 12 years of engineering experience and a 176 isn't enough to go to law school, maybe we should take the retake out of "retake or don't go."Desert Fox wrote:Well, he'd have to do better than 176.iamapipersson wrote:Hilarious when he does better on lsat than you, fox.Desert Fox wrote:1) Go find a jobgoldoldman wrote:Hey guys, I am an engineer by qualification and for the last couple months, I have not been working. The company I worked for ran out of work, and was trying to force a lot of the employees into taking temp positions elsewhere as technicians, so a lot of us quit to save our resumes. What if I do not find a job for another 6 months? How does it impact my admission prospects? I have been working as an engineer for more than 12 years and I do not have any other gaps in my resume.
I would appreciate your input.
2) Don't go to law school.
But I'm not saying he's stupid or can't get a biglaw job. I'm sure he could. It's just not worth it.
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