Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

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Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby lawschool95148 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:11 pm

Hey guys,

I'm trying to decide between Santa Clara University School of Law and New York Law School. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby ticklemesilly » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:19 pm

Are you interested in IP?

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby SFSpartan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:23 pm

Nobody is going to be able to give you useful feedback without insight into your goals and the costs of the respective schools. However, a couple general thoughts based on your post history:

1) Even if money isn't an issue, don't squander your parents' money on an objectively bad school.

2) Both of these schools are questionable at any price.

3) The correct response is to retake/reapply.

4) Why do you want to be a lawyer?

5) To preempt your reasons for not wanting to re-take and reapply- unless you have maxed out your LSAT attempts, your reasons are bad.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby swampman » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:24 pm

Depends, would you rather be unemployed in California or unemployed in New York?

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby KMart » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:33 pm

Don't.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby OhBoyOhBortles » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:38 pm

KMart wrote:Don't.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Moneytrees » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:47 pm

Both schools have awful employment outcomes.

The only other thing I can add is that I've lived both in the bay area and NYC, and Santa Clara has a much better reputation in the bay than New York Law School has in New York.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:30 pm

With a 153/2.35, law school is not a reasonable path, in my opinion. Why not work & get an MBA part-time ? Many employers will reimburse your tuition, fees & books if you work full-time & get a passing grade.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Rigo » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:32 pm

Yikes. Neither. This would be the biggest mistake of your life.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby alexjinye » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:42 am

New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby BigZuck » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:19 am

alexjinye wrote:New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

NYU is a random state school and not lay prestigious though, so even this doesn't work.

You'd have to find a TLSer IRL who mishears you if you want to find someone who is impressed by NYU. And then if that TLSer went to a T5 school they won't be impressed, they'll probably just feel sorry for you for being locked out of the T5. So, it would have to be a TLSer who went to a lower T14 (but, like a splitter bro who didn't get into NYU and not someone who followed to money to, like, Duke) or maybe one of the peons who went to a T20. And again, they have to mishear you.

That's a tall order.

OP- don't do it. Do not go to one of these schools. Get a job.
(In b4 Johann rage posts and this becomes a lay prestige thread)

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby ticklemesilly » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:51 am

BigZuck wrote:
alexjinye wrote:New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

NYU is a random state school and not lay prestigious though, so even this doesn't work.

You'd have to find a TLSer IRL who mishears you if you want to find someone who is impressed by NYU. And then if that TLSer went to a T5 school they won't be impressed, they'll probably just feel sorry for you for being locked out of the T5. So, it would have to be a TLSer who went to a lower T14 (but, like a splitter bro who didn't get into NYU and not someone who followed to money to, like, Duke) or maybe one of the peons who went to a T20. And again, they have to mishear you.

That's a tall order.

OP- don't do it. Do not go to one of these schools. Get a job.
(In b4 Johann rage posts and this becomes a lay prestige thread)


NYU is a private, not a state school.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby mvp99 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:59 am

ticklemesilly wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
alexjinye wrote:New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

NYU is a random state school and not lay prestigious though, so even this doesn't work.

You'd have to find a TLSer IRL who mishears you if you want to find someone who is impressed by NYU. And then if that TLSer went to a T5 school they won't be impressed, they'll probably just feel sorry for you for being locked out of the T5. So, it would have to be a TLSer who went to a lower T14 (but, like a splitter bro who didn't get into NYU and not someone who followed to money to, like, Duke) or maybe one of the peons who went to a T20. And again, they have to mishear you.

That's a tall order.

OP- don't do it. Do not go to one of these schools. Get a job.
(In b4 Johann rage posts and this becomes a lay prestige thread)


NYU is a private, not a state school.


poster probably tought NYU was like UVA Michigan, both are public...... but not really

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:03 am

He was joking... To your random lay person not in NYC, New York University sounds like a random state school.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby swampman » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:07 am

scottidsntknow wrote:He was joking... To your random lay person not in NYC, New York University sounds like a random state school.

And in NYC we think it's about as good as a random state school, but we know the undergrads pay 60k a year for the privilege.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby usn26 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:17 am

swampman wrote:Depends, would you rather be unemployed in California or unemployed in New York?

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:31 pm

usn26 wrote:
swampman wrote:Depends, would you rather be unemployed in California or unemployed in New York?


TCR

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby L’Étranger » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:45 pm

BigZuck wrote:
alexjinye wrote:New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

NYU is a random state school and not lay prestigious though, so even this doesn't work.


1) NYU is a private school not a state school
2) NYU as an institution (i.e. including law school, med school, film school, etc.) is in fact highly regarded by many people

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Rigo » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:48 pm

It was a joke, you dumbs.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Traynor Brah » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:49 pm

L’Étranger wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
alexjinye wrote:New York Law for the slight preftige. It will be cool to tell people that you went to "New York Law." Lay people will think you go to NYU Law hahaha.

NYU is a random state school and not lay prestigious though, so even this doesn't work.


1) NYU is a private school not a state school
2) NYU as an institution (i.e. including law school, med school, film school, etc.) is in fact highly regarded by many people

but is it T5?

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby ticklemesilly » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:50 pm

OP has mentioned in a different post that money is not an issue and that he/she will not even be applying for financial aid. It sounds like OP is coming from a very well to do family and while most people can/should not afford to gamble money when the employment outcomes are likely to be negative, perhaps the case is different for OP. Maybe he/she has a passion for law and has ambitions other than big law? It sounds like money is not an issue, so heck, if you are rich enough and do want big law, maybe the 6% that New York Law sends to big firms is worth the risk for OP. And if OP doesn't get big law but parents have footed the bill, then the only thing lost will be time (and probably an insubstantial amount of money for the truly well off).

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby TasmanianToucan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:53 pm

ticklemesilly wrote:OP has mentioned in a different post that money is not an issue and that he/she will not even be applying for financial aid. It sounds like OP is coming from a very well to do family and while most people can/should not afford to gamble money when the employment outcomes are likely to be negative, perhaps the case is different for OP. Maybe he/she has a passion for law and has ambitions other than big law? It sounds like money is not an issue, so heck, if you are rich enough and do want big law, maybe the 6% that New York Law sends to big firms is worth the risk for OP. And if OP doesn't get big law but parents have footed the bill, then the only thing lost will be time (and probably an insubstantial amount of money for the truly well off).

Rich people don't get rich and stay that way by throwing money away, which is exactly what we're talking about doing here.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby Traynor Brah » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:55 pm

ticklemesilly wrote:OP has mentioned in a different post that money is not an issue and that he/she will not even be applying for financial aid. It sounds like OP is coming from a very well to do family and while most people can/should not afford to gamble money when the employment outcomes are likely to be negative, perhaps the case is different for OP. Maybe he/she has a passion for law and has ambitions other than big law? It sounds like money is not an issue, so heck, if you are rich enough and do want big law, maybe the 6% that New York Law sends to big firms is worth the risk for OP. And if OP doesn't get big law but parents have footed the bill, then the only thing lost will be time (and probably an insubstantial amount of money for the truly well off).

Right...

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby ticklemesilly » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:57 pm

TasmanianToucan wrote:
ticklemesilly wrote:OP has mentioned in a different post that money is not an issue and that he/she will not even be applying for financial aid. It sounds like OP is coming from a very well to do family and while most people can/should not afford to gamble money when the employment outcomes are likely to be negative, perhaps the case is different for OP. Maybe he/she has a passion for law and has ambitions other than big law? It sounds like money is not an issue, so heck, if you are rich enough and do want big law, maybe the 6% that New York Law sends to big firms is worth the risk for OP. And if OP doesn't get big law but parents have footed the bill, then the only thing lost will be time (and probably an insubstantial amount of money for the truly well off).

Rich people don't get rich and stay that way by throwing money away, which is exactly what we're talking about doing here.


44% of graduates get JD required jobs. If you truly have the money to risk and it's really something you want to pursue, it's not something you are throwing away.

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Re: Santa Clara Law or New York Law?

Postby TasmanianToucan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:01 pm

ticklemesilly wrote:
TasmanianToucan wrote:
ticklemesilly wrote:OP has mentioned in a different post that money is not an issue and that he/she will not even be applying for financial aid. It sounds like OP is coming from a very well to do family and while most people can/should not afford to gamble money when the employment outcomes are likely to be negative, perhaps the case is different for OP. Maybe he/she has a passion for law and has ambitions other than big law? It sounds like money is not an issue, so heck, if you are rich enough and do want big law, maybe the 6% that New York Law sends to big firms is worth the risk for OP. And if OP doesn't get big law but parents have footed the bill, then the only thing lost will be time (and probably an insubstantial amount of money for the truly well off).

Rich people don't get rich and stay that way by throwing money away, which is exactly what we're talking about doing here.


44% of graduates get JD required jobs. If you truly have the money to risk and it's really something you want to pursue, it's not something you are throwing away.

Let's be clear about what kind of gamble that is. That statistic means that if you are at MEDIAN, you don't even get to practice as a lawyer, never mind in big law. If I had venture capital money to throw around, that would be a tough sell.




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