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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Moneytrees » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:45 am

Robust numbers for BU.

Also, I'm sure Columbia did fine. UT on the other hand...

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby exitoptions » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:49 am

TheodoreKGB wrote:
exitoptions wrote:
runinthefront wrote:If the employment rate went up, UT's CSO would've definitely released them by now--especially when it competes with so many other schools for quality applicants. This is not good news.


Same for Columbia?

I get your point.

But Columbia and Texas are worlds apart; i.e., Columbia is in the safe zone and Texas is in the red zone. I think that's more what the person you quoted was hinting at.

Tangentially, to put it another way, Michigan and Yale have similar BL + FC totals, but nowhere right now is anyone burning cars over Yale's figure.


I wasn't trying to make a point. I was just curious why it's taking them so long to compile since the other large t14 schools have posted.

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Re: Latest employment data

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BigZuck » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:51 am

banjo wrote:Columbia's NLJ250 rate--which underreports BL placement and doesn't include clerkships--was 66%, topping the list. CLS is obviously going to end up in the 70s. They're probably just delayed because they have their mega EIP info session for the 1Ls this week.

If it means anything, UT's NLJ250 rate is just ever so slightly higher this year than last, so I'm guessing numbers will be about the same, just like the dean apparently said.

Maybe clerkships were worse though? I dunno.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Moneytrees » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:54 am

Clerkships were down for Georgetown and Vandy, so it's possible.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby exitoptions » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:56 am

Moneytrees wrote:Clerkships were down for Georgetown and Vandy, so it's possible.


Stanford, Berkeley, and UVA stole all the clerkships...

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby rion91 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:59 am

damn bu and notre dame are killin it

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Rigo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:03 pm

Those are T20 numbers for BU.
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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Clemenceau » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:04 pm

rion91 wrote:damn bu and notre dame are killin it


Other law schools should be taking notes wrt class sizes

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Rigo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:06 pm

Clemenceau wrote:
rion91 wrote:damn bu and notre dame are killin it

Other law schools should be taking notes wrt class sizes

Huh? BU class size is about the same and ND grew their's.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Moneytrees » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:20 pm

Rigo wrote:
Clemenceau wrote:
rion91 wrote:damn bu and notre dame are killin it

Other law schools should be taking notes wrt class sizes

Huh? BU class size is about the same and ND grew their's.


BU has decreased its class size substantially (class of 2017 will graduate 210 students as opposed to 2013's class of 275) , and ND only grew their size to 200, which is fine for a good regional. I'm sure ND's class of 2018 will will drop back to the 180 or 190 range.

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Re: Latest employment data

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Clemenceau » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:24 pm

Rigo wrote:
Clemenceau wrote:
rion91 wrote:damn bu and notre dame are killin it

Other law schools should be taking notes wrt class sizes

Huh? BU class size is about the same and ND grew their's.


My b. Not sure what the c/o 2017 enrollment looks like.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Dr. Nefario » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:24 pm

These stats make my minions dance.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:26 pm

Just lol @ Columbia's 4.7% fed clerkships. Once is an accident, twice is a trend.

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Postby Wattz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:28 pm

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby queerqueg » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:28 pm

Wattz wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:Columbia is out

http://web.law.columbia.edu/careers/emp ... statistics


Pretty sure this link is c/o 2013 info..


They're futzing with the site. It was there.

I counted 81% BL+FC edit: wrong
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Re: Latest employment data

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:30 pm

I've got BL + FC at 78.8

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby JFO1833 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:30 pm

4: Columbia - BL+FC-79%, FTLTBR-94%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-87%

http://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/defau ... ummary.pdf

127: Chapman - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-47%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-47%
RNP: Campbell - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-58%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-58%

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby queerqueg » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:31 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:I've got BL + FC at 78.8


Yep my mistake, they posted the wrong %'s on their table.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby wsag826 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 pm

0L here. Do federal clerkship percentages matter on the same level that employment numbers do? Certainly they're prestigious but (i) do these clerkship percentages reflect people who are clerking in the 2016-17 year or beyond but are doing a legal fellowship or another JD job first; and (ii) if it is so hard to secure a federal clerkship in the first place, doesn't it kind of make the fed. clerkship %s in the top ten less of a big deal? Just wondering.

Side note, Cornell is doing fantastic. Small class size seems to work very well for them. And I think it should be CCNP at this point in time given Penn's numbers. Or maybe even CCP.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby toothbrush » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:39 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:http://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/microsites/careers/files/2014_aba_employment_summary.pdf

what positions make up the 31 school funded, do you know? are those teaching fellowships/ associate professors (the research one)?

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby LetsGoMets » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:44 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:Just lol @ Columbia's 4.7% fed clerkships. Once is an accident, twice is a trend.


Damn. Did you expect that?

It does seem like with the collapse of the Plan more and more people are aiming to clerk after working for some time, which at a school as biglaw-heavy as CLS could suppress the clerkship numbers at 9 months. Don't mean to turn this into a clerkship discussion, just curious about this trend.

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Re: Latest employment data

Postby BigZuck » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:45 pm

wsag826 wrote:Or maybe even CCP.

8)

Say whatever you want kid, I guess

It's people who are clerking right after school, who knows what they do after that

Clerkship numbers are good to group with big law to get a sense of "good outcomes" but it's pretty meaningless to think one school is better than the other if it's like 11% vs 8%.

Top 10 isn't really a thing.

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